Counsel to Counsel - Career Advice for Lawyers
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About
Counsel to Counsel is a periodic podcast produced by Stephen Seckler of Seckler Attorney Coaching (www.seckler.com). It addresses important career, marketing, and leadership issues facing attorneys. The target audience is associates, counsel and partners at law firms of all sizes; but the podcast also addresses issues that are relevant to in-house counsel, law students or any lawyer who is looking for career insights inside or outside of the law. Counsel to Counsel is aimed at individual lawyers who are looking to increase their own career satisfaction and build their marketing and leadership skills. The podcast features interviews with leading consultants, career professionals and marketing experts who advise attorneys on careers, marketing, law firm management and related issues. The guests are also a roster of successful attorneys who have found career satisfaction inside and outside the law.Counsel to Counsel is a direct outgrowth of the blog Counsel to Counsel which Stephen
Episodes
- Episode 175-Making Strategic Lateral Moves: Insights for Law Firm Partners from a Top Legal Recruiter
In this episode, Scott Love, a renowned legal recruiter and host of the Rainmaking Podcast, delves into the complexities of lateral partner transitions within law firms. Scott shares his wealth of experience, offering listeners a roadmap t…
- Episode 174-How Self-Awareness Increases Your Effectiveness in Managing Your Legal Team
Self-awareness is an important and often overlooked skill in a lawyer's toolkit. Personality and behavioral assessments like DISC can be used in a practical, grounded way to help lawyers better understand their strengths, spot blind spots,…
- Episode 173-Managing a Demanding Career While Caring for an Aging Parent
In this episode, Steve Seckler speaks with Amy Mariani , a Boston-based mediator and former litigator. She shares her deeply personal journey navigating her professional life alongside caring for her mother with dementia. Her story offers…
- Episode 172-Boundaries, Burnout, and Building a Sustainable Legal Career with Gary Miles
In this episode, Gary Miles delves into the pervasive issue of burnout in the legal profession and offers practical strategies for establishing healthy boundaries. Drawing from his extensive experience, Gary discusses the role of perfectio…
- Episode 171-A Career in Legal Operations with Jeff Kruse
Legal operations has evolved from a back-office function into a strategic discipline that is reshaping how legal services are delivered. In this conversation, Stephen Seckler speaks with legal operations consultant Jeff Kruse about how tec…
- Episode 170-Shauna Bryce on How to use (and Not to Use) AI in a Job Search
In this episode, Steve talks with Shauna Bryce of Bryce Legal about finding the right balance between AI tools and old-fashioned relationship-building in today's legal job market. Shauna shares concrete examples of how AI can speed up rese…
- Episode 169-Creating a Blueprint to Launch Your Solo Law Practice--with Anthonia Berry
In this episode, Stephen Seckler interviews Anthonia Berry , a legal marketing and business development strategist, about her new program, Building Your Own Practice Blueprint . The program is designed to help lawyers transition from tradi…
- Episode 168-Matt Selig of Health Law Advocates: Practicing Public Interest Law
In this episode, Stephen Seckler interviews Matt Selig, the Executive Director of Health Law Advocates (HLA), a nonprofit organization dedicated to improving healthcare access for vulnerable populations in Massachusetts. They discuss HLA's…
- Episode 167-From Litigation to Mediation with Oran Kaufman
In this episode, Stephen Seckler speaks with Oran Kaufman, a mediator with an extensive background in family law. They discuss Oran's journey from litigation to mediation, the skills required to be a mediator, and how mediation has changed…
- Counsel to Counsel-Coming in Late January 2026
We are taking a pause until mid-late January 2026 for some upgrades. We are adding a YouTube feed to our mix for listeners who prefer video and we are lining up some great guests to talk to you about your legal career. We are grateful to o…
- Episode 166-Marketing for Introverts with Saja Raoof, Border Wall Destroyer
In this episode, Steve speaks with Saja Raoof , an immigration lawyer based in the Bay Area, about how introverted lawyers can build thriving practices without pretending to be extroverts. A self-proclaimed introvert and creative marketer,…
- Episode 165-Retirement on Trial with Steve Herman
In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, Stephen Seckler speaks with Steve Herman, a civil litigator and documentary filmmaker from Vancouver, Canada. After more than 35 years in practice, Steve turned the camera on himself to explore one of…
- Episode 164-Experiencing Renewal in the Jewish New Year
In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, I reflect on some of the themes of the Jewish New Year and the importance of self reflection (and the fact that you get to do it twice a year if you happen to be Jewish!)
- Episode 163- How to Use Book Publishing to Build Your Brand-with Melanie Herschorn
Publishing a book may feel like an overwhelming project, but for lawyers it can be one of the most effective ways to build credibility, attract new clients, and open doors to new opportunities. In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host…
- Episode 162-"What Do Lawyers Really Want?" with Philippe Danielides
Many lawyers are clear about what they don't want in their career. But they struggle to define what they do want. In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , Steve Seckler speaks with Philippe Danielides , former Biglaw associate, communicatio…
- Episode 161- Managing Law Firms Across the Generations with Daya Naef
In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , Steve Seckler speaks with attorney, entrepreneur, and legal business strategist Daya Naef , founder of The Success Partner, about how law firms can navigate the generational handoff in leadership. As…
- Episode 160- How AI is Disrupting Digital Marketing for Lawyers with Annie Stern
Artificial intelligence is dramatically changing how legal services are marketed—and how clients find lawyers. In this episode, Steve Seckler speaks with Annie Stern, a seasoned digital marketing strategist, about what lawyers need to know…
- Episode 159-How (Not) to Communicate Like a Lawyer
As lawyers, we are trained to analyze, critique, and mitigate risk — all essential skills in practice. But when we bring that same mindset into our everyday conversations, we can unintentionally undermine connection and trust. In this epis…
- Episode 158-Marketing and Selfcare are Habit Forming
In this solo episode, attorney Stephen Seckler reflects on the importance of building small, consistent habits—both for professional success and personal wellbeing. Drawing on his own efforts to reduce news and screen time, improve sleep h…
- Episode 157-Planning Your Exit From the Law
Many lawyers find themselves questioning whether the traditional practice of law is the right long-term fit. In this episode, host Stephen Seckler speaks with Kim Fine and Neil Handwerker, co-founders of ex judicata , a platform designed t…
- Episode 156-Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur – Chapter One
In this special solo episode of Counsel to Counsel , I take a break from my usual interview format to share something personal: the audio version of Chapter One of my new book, Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur , just published…
- Episode 155: From Lawyering to Legal Tech with Ben Chiriboga
In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , Steve speaks with legal tech executive and former practicing attorney Ben Chiriboga , founding team member of Nexl , a legal CRM platform built specifically for law firms. Ben shares how Nexl is tran…
- Episode 154- The Latest Research from the NALP Foundation and What it Means for Your Career
In this episode, Steve speaks with the administrative team at the NALP Foundation, a nonprofit research organization focused on the advancement of the legal profession. They explore recent data on associate hiring, attrition, and retention…
- Episode 153- The Role of Job Boards in Career Exploration
In this episode, I take another break from interviewing guests to share some quick thoughts on how to use job boards effectively in your job search. While I spend a lot of time encouraging clients to make networking the central focus of th…
- Episode 152: Practical Applications for AI in Your Law Practice with Jonathan White
In this episode, Steve Seckler speaks with Jonathan White , a Boston-based trusts and estates attorney and a self-described AI enthusiast. Jonathan shares practical insights into how he is using artificial intelligence tools to streamline…
- Episode 151-Why I Wrote Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur
In this episode, I'm taking a break from interviewing guests to share some exciting news—my new book, Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur , is being published by the American Bar Association in late March! If you've ever struggle…
- Episode 150-Growing Your Law Firm with Dominic Grew
In this episode, business coach Dominic Grew returns to discuss how solo and small firm lawyers can strategically grow their practices without overextending themselves. Dominic shares practical insights on leveraging time, outsourcing non-…
- Episode 149—Turning Business Conversations into Business—a Role-Play with Gary Johnson
In this episode, host Stephen Seckler welcomes back Gary Johnson, president of J2 Marketing Consultants , for a dynamic session of role-playing client intakes. They explore how lawyers can turn initial business conversations into productiv…
- Episode 148-Strategic Marketing for Law Firms with Carrie Flynn
In this episode, host Stephen Seckler sits down with Carrie Flynn , a fractional CMO and growth marketing consultant, to explore the evolving landscape of marketing for lawyers and law firms. Carrie brings over eight years of experience he…
- Episode 147-Your Legal Career: If It's Broke, Fix It or Move On?
In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host Stephen Seckler is joined by Susanne Aronowitz , a senior consultant with Beard Strategies and a Professional Certified Coach, to discuss career transitions and job satisfaction for lawyers. Sus…
- Episode 146-Nancy Capistran on Using Peer Advisory Groups and Individual Coaching to Build Leadership Skills
In this episode of the Counsel to Counsel podcast, host Stephen Seckler engages with Nancy Capistran, founder of Capistran Leadership and a Vistage chair, to delve into the transformative impact of peer advisory groups and executive coachi…
- Episode 145-"Earley" Mistakes to Avoid When Starting Your Own Law Practice
Starting your own law practice is a bold and rewarding move, but it comes with its share of challenges. In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host Stephen Seckler sits down with Chris Earley , a Massachusetts-based personal injury attorn…
- Episode 144-Turning Business Contacts into Business: Lessons From the 2024 Election
In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host Stephen Seckler shares insights from his recent experiences volunteering during the 2024 election. Drawing lessons from the power of listening in political campaigns, Steve explores how lawyers…
- Episode 143-The Longevity Revolution with Judith Kurnick
In this episode Steve Seckler speaks with Judith Kurnick , an executive transition coach who specializes in guiding late-career lawyers, executives, and business owners as they navigate career transitions. Judith delves into the "longevity…
- Episode 142-Winning in Your Own Court with Dena Lefkowitz
In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host Stephen Seckler welcomes Dena Lefkowitz , a professional coach and former practicing attorney who helps lawyers navigate the complexities of career development, marketing, and finding profession…
- Episode 141-Co-Mediation with Jeff Soilson, Esq. and Ashleigh Louis Ph.D.
In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, I am joined by Jeffrey Soilson, Esq. and Ashleigh Louis, Ph.D., founders of Quantum ADR, an innovative co-mediation practice. Quantum ADR takes an interdisciplinary approach to conflict resolution by…
- Episode 140- Naïs Mouret on Emotional Intelligence, Physical Well-being, and the Practice of Law
In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host Steve Seckler interviews Naïs Mouret, a global leadership advisor and certified emotional intelligence consultant. Naïs shares insights on the critical role of emotional intelligence (EI) and ph…
- Episode 139-Conquering Perfectionism in the Practice of Law with Jordana Confino
In this episode of the Counsel to Counsel podcast, host Stephen Seckler is joined by Jordana Confino , a certified professional coach and founder of JC Coaching & Consulting. Together, they explore the pervasive issue of perfectionism with…
- Episode 138-Thought Leadership and Careers in Business Law with Lana Manganiello
In this episode Stephen Seckler speaks with Lana Manganiello , author of the new book Careers in Business Law: Forging Your Path to Success (American Bar Association 2024). Lana shares insights from her extensive experience working with Am…
- Episode 137-Summertime, Time Blocking, and Checking Things Off of Your To Do List
In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, I'm taking a summer pause from interviewing to catch up on some projects. I share with you my thoughts on using time blocking as a way to get to the things that are important but not urgent. Related E…
- Episode 136- Aliant, a New Global Model for Practicing Law with Jacob Stein
Law is a conservative profession where change happens slowly. Law firms generally lag far behind accounting firms in creating new models. But since the explosion of the internet in the late 1990s, that rate of change has begun to accelerat…
- Episode 135-Tackling Mental Health Issues in the Law with Amy Levine and LCL
Attorney well-being continues to be a hot topic in the legal community. While the most severe effects of the pandemic are now behind us, mental health continues to be a significant issue in our profession. But there is a lot being done to…
- Episode 134-Law Firm Succession Planning with David Wood
As the baby boomer generation of lawyers approaches retirement, many firms are facing the looming challenge of ensuring a seamless transition for their clients. This process is not just about maintaining business continuity but also about…
- Episode 133-Transitioning to In-house From Litigation and Building a Legal Team—With Matt Campobasso
For many lawyers in private practice, going in-house is the ultimate goal. For transactional lawyers and for some specialties like employment law, the path to a corporate role is more obvious. For litigators, less so. Most companies outsou…
- Episode 132-My Return to Live Conferences
I was beginning to think that live conferences were in my rear view mirror...until I attended the Annual Education Conference of the National Association for Law Placement. It was my first live conference in over four years. And I was like…
- Episode 131-Becoming Memorable with Merry Neitlich
We've talked a lot on this show about sales and marketing and how selling legal services is different than selling a product. That's good news for those of us in the legal industry because many of us don't like the thought of being a sales…
- Episode 130-Emotional Intelligence and EQ i-2.0 With Susan Schwartz
I've had a number of guests on this show speaking about leadership. A large part of this is that I'm very interested in the subject. But I also feel that this is a skill set that is often neglected in the legal profession. As lawyers, we l…
- Episode 129-Law Firm Leadership with Kristi Royse
The practice of law has evolved a lot in the three decades since I graduated from law school. Technology has replace many monotonous functions and computers have replaced paper. The internet has revolutionized how legal research is done an…
- Episode 128-Here Comes the Judge- the Honorable Paul Wilson (ret.)
For a long time, I've been meaning to invite a judge onto Counsel to Counsel to talk about judicial careers. Going on the bench is a logical next step for many litigators and I wanted to speak to a judge who could offer some practical wisd…
- Episode 127-Law Firm Operations and Launching Your Own Firm-With Diane Camacho
In the legal press and even in popular media, larger law firms tend to get a most of the attention. In truth, a high percentage of lawyers in the United States practice in firms that are under 20 attorneys. And many of those are solo pract…