Two IPs In A Pod

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About

Brilliant inventions, fresh product designs, iconic brand names and artistic creativity are not only the building blocks of successful business - they deliver a better world for us all. But these valuable forms of intellectual property must be protected in order to flourish. We are the Chartered Institute of Patent Attorneys - the UK's largest intellectual property organisation. Our hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts chat with entrepreneurs, creatives, patent attorneys and the occasional judge about how patents, trade marks, designs and copyright can improve our lives and solve problems for humanity.

Episodes

  • Inside IP Leadership with INTA President Deborah Hampton

    Send us Fan Mail This episode features Deborah A. Hampton in conversation with Gwilym Roberts and Lee Davies, exploring the realities of modern trade mark practice, leadership, and career development within intellectual property. Deborah r…

  • World IP Day: IP in sports innovation

    Send us Fan Mail To mark World IP Day’s sports theme, we explore how intellectual property quietly shapes the world of winter sport, from performance and safety to sponsorship and visibility. Drawing on stories from the Olympics and beyond…

  • Reviewing Patent Attorney Training

    Send us Fan Mail The rules of qualification aren’t being rewritten overnight, but the questions are getting sharper. We sit down with Debbie Slater, Chair of CIPA’s Education Committee, to unpack the IPReg Education Review and what it coul…

  • When Innovation Meets The Courtroom, with Laura Whiting and Arty Rajendra

    Send us Fan Mail Lee and Gwilym are joined on the podcast by Laura Whiting from Freshfields and Arty Rajendra from Osborne Clarke. Ever wonder who decides the price of your medicine, the terms behind your 5G connection, or why your favorit…

  • A Patent Pioneer On Barriers, Breakthroughs, And The Next Wave Of AI - Virginia Driver

    Send us Fan Mail Virginia Driver recounts entering a profession that once enforced skirts and skepticism, then earning credibility across computing, telecoms, and the smartphone wars, where old devices became courtroom gold. That history m…

  • Inside The EPO’s AI Push With Angel Aledo Lopez

    Send us Fan Mail What happens when the European Patent Office’s CTO and COO says the hardest part of technology isn’t the code, it’s the culture? Lee and Gwilym sit down with Angel Aledo Lopez to unpack how AI is changing the way patents a…

  • How Innovation Moves From Elite Sport To Your Gear At Home

    Send us Fan Mail A squash ball to the ear is a painful reminder that sport isn’t just competition, it’s design, data, and decisions that protect and perform. From that opening jolt, we dive into the fast-moving world of sports technology w…

  • Inside IPReg’s Education Review And What It Means

    Send us Fan Mail What should a newly qualified patent or trademark attorney be able to do on day one, and how should we train for a world shaped by AI, shifting client needs, and the public interest? We sit down with IPREG’s education revi…

  • From Industry To Patent Office Director with Maja Schmitt

    Send us Fan Mail A chemist hears a patent attorney speak and sees a future. Years later, that same attorney is directing a national patent office and helping rewrite how innovation gets protected. This conversation with Maja Schmitt travel…

  • Christmas Bants, Rants, and Reflections

    Send us Fan Mail We celebrate five years of IP conversations with a festive look back at the moments that shaped the show. From lockdown origins to Earthshot wins and live sessions at INTA, we share what we learned from judges, founders, a…

  • Inside The EPO with Heli Pihlajamaa: Paperless Plans, Unitary Patent, And How Rules Get Made

    Send us Fan Mail Ever wondered who actually turns evolving case law and global agreements into the rules you use every day? We sit down with Heli Pihlajamaa, Principal Director of Patent Law and Procedures at the EPO, for a candid tour of…

  • Mental Health Training for Managers

    Send us Fan Mail Mental health training for line managers represents the most valuable investment an organization can make in supporting workplace wellbeing. This enlightening discussion brings together experts from Jonathan's Voice charit…

  • Breaking Barriers in Tech: Dr Anne-Marie Imafidon's Journey

    Send us Fan Mail Dr Anne-Marie Imafidon lights up our podcast with her remarkable journey from child math prodigy to founder of STEMETTES, an organization transforming how young women engage with science and technology. With disarming cand…

  • How The New EQE Changes Training, Exams, And Exemptions

    Send us Fan Mail Want a clear roadmap to the new EQE without the confusion or the myths? We sat down with the people who helped design it to unpack the why, the what, and the how, so you can plan your path with confidence. Lee and Gwilym u…

  • Championing Diversity: IP Inclusive's 10-Year Journey

    Send us Fan Mail A decade of transforming the intellectual property landscape through inclusion, allyship, and community building, that's the remarkable journey of IP Inclusive we explore in this episode with founder Andrea Brewster. What…

  • INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with… AIPLA

    Send us Fan Mail On our last episode, we are stepping into the world of global intellectual property advocacy as we sit down with Margaret Polson and Lauren B. Emerson from the American Intellectual Property Law Association (AIPLA) during…

  • INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with… Rob Jackson

    Send us Fan Mail Our next guest to join Lee and Gwilym in our San Diego Pubcast is Rob Jackson. Chair of CIPA's UPC Committee, takes us on a captivating journey from his unconventional entry into patent law to his passionate advocacy for U…

  • INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with... Michael McLaughlin

    Send us Fan Mail Lee and Gwilym were joined by Michael McLaughlin, Patent Attorney at McLaughlin IP Pte. Ltd., for this INTA Pubcast special. Ever wonder what happens when engineering expertise meets international IP law across multiple co…

  • INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with... Vicki Salmon

    Send us Fan Mail To start off our San Diego Pubcast special, Lee and Gwilym sit down with Vicki Salmon. Vicki never planned on becoming a patent attorney. While preparing for a career as an accountant after studying natural sciences at Cam…

  • INTA San Diego Special with... IPIC

    Send us Fan Mail This episode captures a fascinating conversation between UK and Canadian intellectual property experts exploring the unique challenges and innovations in their respective IP systems. The discussion dives deep into Canada's…

  • INTA San Diego Special with… Charles Randolph and Brian Beckham from WIPO

    Send us Fan Mail Step into the fascinating world of global intellectual property protection with Charles Randolph and Brian Beckham from the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) . What begins as an annual update on WIPO's activi…

  • INTA San Diego Special with... RightHub

    Send us Fan Mail Alex Gray and Asa Le Fustec from RightHub join us to reveal how they're disrupting the IP management industry with their fresh approach. After spending decades navigating the limitations of legacy systems at companies like…

  • INTA San Diego Special with... Andre Andrade and Emma Browning from RWS

    Send us Fan Mail The upcoming INTA 2026 in London has us dreaming of pub quizzes, battle of the bands, and podcasting from double-decker buses, but before that excitement, we're diving into the world of intellectual property services with…

  • INTA San Diego Special with... Willard Knox

    Send us Fan Mail What happens when podcast hosts become the guests? This delightful crossover episode brings together the worlds of "Two IPs in a Pod" and INTA's "Brand & New" as we welcome host Willard Knox for a behind-the-microphone con…

  • INTA San Diego Special with... Heather Steinmeyer

    Send us Fan Mail Lee and Gwilym are joined in the Pod Box by Heather Steinmeyer, who shares how her journey to becoming INTA’s Chief Policy Officer began unexpectedly in 1980s New York publishing. There, she gained valuable exposure to con…

  • INTA San Diego Special with... INTA President Elisabeth Stewart Bradley

    Send us Fan Mail Lee and Gwilym have landed in San Diego for the INTA 2025 Annual Meeting! Elisabeth Stewart Bradley, INTA President and Vice President of Innovation Law: Trademarks, Copyrights, and Brand Protection at Bristol Myers Squibb…

  • Inside the UK's Global IP Attaché Network

    Send us Fan Mail From helping Scotch Whisky manufacturers by protecting the name in Brazil to working on the IP aspects of the UK's Government's reset in relations with the European Union, the work of our IP Attachés is varied and complex.…

  • Mental Health Training for Line Managers

    Send us Fan Mail It's Mental Health Awareness Week and Lee and Gwilym are joined by Penelope Aspinall from the Jonathan’s Voice charity, along with Joanne Donaldson (HLK), Cathy Bailey (UK Intellectual Property Office) and Sally Bannan (Cy…

  • Teaching Intellectual Property with Enrico Bonadio

    Send us Fan Mail The vital intersection between academia and real-world intellectual property practice takes center stage as Lee and Gwilym welcome Enrico Bonadio from City St George’s University of London. His unique journey from IP litig…

  • Insights from IP Leaders... with Keven Bader

    Send us Fan Mail Join Lee and Gwilym for an engaging conversation with Keven Bader, Chief Executive of the Chartered Institute of Trademark Attorneys, who shares his personal journey in the realm of intellectual property. They discuss pres…

  • Trade Mark Genericide with Natasha Bamu

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Two IPs in a Pod , Lee and Gwilym are joined by Natasha Bamu from Barron Warren Redfern to explore the world of Trade Mark Genericide—what it is, how it happens, and the steps brands can take to prevent…

  • EDI Unplugged: Exploring Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion

    Send us Fan Mail Join us for an enlightening episode as we explore the multifaceted theme of Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion (EDI) within the patent profession. Hosted by Lee Davis and Gwilym Roberts, we are thrilled to have guests Greg…

  • Robotics Marvels and Intellectual Property Insights with Tom Bridgwater

    Send us Fan Mail Our latest podcast episode dives into the intriguing journey of Tom Bridgewater, CIPA Honorary Informals Representative who transformed his physics and robotics expertise into a rewarding career in intellectual property. T…

  • Revolutionizing Carbon Capture with Ray Naughton

    Send us Fan Mail Join Lee and Gwilym for an enlightening conversation with Ray Naughton from NEG8 Carbon , a pioneering force in the world of carbon capture technology. Ray takes us on a journey from a humble research project at Trinity Co…

  • Illuminating the World of Intellectual Property Insurance with Lewis Parle

    Send us Fan Mail Join Lee and Gwilym as they welcome Lewis Parle, an IP insurance expert, who shares his fascinating journey into this niche field and helps unravel the complex, yet critical, aspects of insuring intellectual assets. They d…

  • Redefining Creativity: AI, Patents, and the Future of Innovation

    Send us Fan Mail Join us as we explore this compelling question with Rachel Free, an esteemed patent attorney and the Vice Chair of the Computer Tech Committee at CIPA. Rachel takes us on a fascinating journey from her initial studies in c…

  • Shaping the Future of Intellectual Property: Leadership Transitions and Global Policy Insights

    Send us Fan Mail Join us for an enlightening conversation with Dana Brown Northcott from Amazon and Etienne Sanz de Acedo from INTA as we explore leadership transitions in the world of intellectual property. Discover how fresh leadership a…

  • Navigating AI Inventorship: Legal Challenges and Global Perspectives with Ryan Abbott

    Send us Fan Mail Join Lee and Gwilym as they navigate the complex role of AI in intellectual property with Ryan Abbott, Professor of Law and Health Sciences at University of Surrey. Ryan discusses how jurisdictions worldwide are grappling…

  • Counterfeit Combats and Creative Innovations: Insights from SnapDragon IP

    Send us Fan Mail Ever found yourself chasing a toddler through bustling streets in Vietnam or battling childhood shingles during a family getaway? We share these personal adventures that serve as a lively backdrop to our enlightening conve…

  • Movember special: Addressing Men's Mental Health in the IP Industry

    Send us Fan Mail How do the pressures of the IP industry intersect with men's mental health, and what strides are being made to address them? Joining Lee and Gwilym this week are Graham Mccartney and Richard Wells, who shed light on Jonath…

  • CIPA at the Earthshot Prize Awards 2024

    Send us Fan Mail CIPA members have played a key role in the success of Prince William's increasingly influential Earthshot Prize, the multi-million pound annual environmental awards. This year the awards were held in Cape Town and Deputy C…

  • IP Paralegal Courses

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Two IPs in a Pod, Lee and Gwilym chat with Annemarie Parsons and Vicky Maynard about CIPA’s Introductory and Advanced Paralegals training courses. After discussing how the IP Paralegal profession has dev…

  • What's in a (band) name?

    Send us Fan Mail Trade marking isn't just a legal formality; it's a strategic move that can help make or break a band's artistic journey. Joining Lee Davies and Gwilym's stand-in, Neil Lampert, this week are trade mark attorneys Chris McLe…

  • Black History Month and Modern Narratives

    Send us Fan Mail Join us as we explore the intersection of professional achievements and cultural heritage with our special guests, Josh McLennan, a European patent attorney, and Nikkei, a technical director and diversity advocate. Discove…

  • Practical experiences and insights of using the UPC

    Send us Fan Mail We’re back! Kicking off season 12, Lee and Gwilym are joined by Rachel Fetches, IP/Patent Litigation Partner at HGF. Discover how the Unified Patent Court is set to transform patent litigation across Europe. This episode s…

  • With... David Kappos

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Two IPs in a Pod , hosts Lee and Gwilym sit down with David Kappos, former Director of the USPTO and a key figure in IP law. They dive into his fascinating career, from his work at IBM to his time in the…

  • With... IP Ability

    Send us Fan Mail This week Lee and Gwilym are joined by another amazing IP Inclusive Community - IP Ability. Guests Marianne Privett (AA Thornton), Chris Clark (Vectura) and George Lucas (eip) bring both a personal and professional perspec…

  • With... Lisa Jorgenson of WIPO

    Send us Fan Mail This week Lee and Gwilym are joined by Lisa Jorgenson of WIPO as she shares her incredible career journey from sales, to IP litigation, to her current role at WIPO. Join the Peas as they chat with Lisa about WIPO's collabo…

  • With... IPause

    Send us Fan Mail Join Lee and Gwilym as they sit down with Jane Wainwright from IPause, the latest initiative by IP Inclusive. This episode dives into the critical topic of menopause, focusing on how it impacts professionals in the intelle…

  • IP & Me

    Send us Fan Mail Ever wondered how a casual chat about football and shirts can effortlessly lead to a deep dive into equity, diversity, and inclusion within the intellectual property profession? That's exactly what happens in this episode…