The Two EXES Podcast
Religion & Spirituality
About
Two husbands. One fabulous story. Join an ex-Jehovah’s Witness and his ex-Mormon husband as they spill the sacramental tea. From Kingdom Halls to Temple calls, they’ve been shunned, silenced, and spiritually ghosted—but now they’re loud, proud, and podcasting it all. The Two EXES of faith now share their journeys from closeted believers to out-and-married besties with mics.
Episodes
- Miracles Are Just Magic With Better PR
The Two EXES discuss magic, banned practices, and the perception of miracles in this episode. They explore how certain magical acts are viewed, and why miracles like Jesus turning water into wine are not considered spells.
- I can't...I'm...
The hosts of The Two EXES discuss the personal use of religious excuses in various situations, exploring how these phrases were used for protection, superiority, or to avoid activities they now regret.
- Gender, Schmender
The Two EXES Podcast discusses how religions explained gender, personal experiences with gender rules, and the underlying reasons for societal conflicts.
- Modest is Hottest
The Two EXES podcast episode "Modest is Hottest" covers fashion topics such as church-approved suits and BYU's beard ban, while also touching on family fashion.
- Satan and the Natural Man
The Two EXES podcast investigates the disappearance of an episode on Demons and Evil Spirits, questioning if Satan or Lucifer was responsible for its suppression.
- Armageddon or Bust!
The hosts of The Two EXES discuss the apocalypse, including preparation checklists like food, weapons, and cash. They also debate whether they believe in a divine countdown for the end of the world.
- Workin' 9to5!
The Two EXES podcast episode 'Workin' 9to5!' explores how religious upbringing impacted their professional lives, financial perspectives, and views on educational institutions like BYU.
- Jehovah's Most Secret Witness
In this episode, The Two EXES answer listener questions, discussing which religious doctrines they abandoned and which they retained. They also reflect on whether their families miss their former selves.
- Disneyland, Vegas, and a Mild Existential Crisis
The Two EXES record from vacation, discussing family travel, workplace drama, Jack Mormons, and Vegas gambling stories. They also ponder whether plastic surgery is holier than coffee.
- Guilt Trips & Road Trips
The Two EXES podcast discusses vacation expectations influenced by former religions, recounts family road trips, and explores instances of bending rules.
- Is Your Church a Dog or a Cat?
The hosts of The Two EXES Podcast discuss pets, the symbolism of animals in religion, and compare different faiths to the personalities of dogs and cats. They also touch upon the topic of pets in heaven.
- Family Values...Unless You're Shunned
The Two EXES Podcast addresses the framing of shunning as love, explores its damaging impact, and offers guidance on reclaiming one's life outside of such systems.
- Blessed Be The Highly Connected!
In this episode of The Two EXES Podcast, titled 'Blessed Be The Highly Connected!', the hosts delve into the topic of religious caste systems. They discuss their perspectives on favoritism and church hierarchy and how these dynamics influe…
- Aw, man!
In this episode of The Two EXES Podcast, titled 'Aw, man!', the hosts delve into the influence their fathers have had on shaping their lives.
- Worthy to Receive
The Two EXES discuss charity, control, and compassion, both within and outside of former religious structures. The episode questions the true beneficiaries of charitable acts when conditions are imposed.
- Are We Trad Wives?
In the first episode of the new year, The Two EXES Podcast discusses traditional values and the current 'trad life' trend. They explore the idea of who needs to know how to maintain a home traditionally.
- Bonus Episode - Movie Review
In this bonus holiday episode, The Two EXES Podcast reviews two religious movies. The hosts watched the films, implying value for the listener by saving them the time.
- Holiday Memories
The Two EXES are hosting their end-of-year holiday party. They will be discussing the holidays while drinking Prosecco.
- More like...Perse-cuties!
In this episode of The Two EXES Podcast, the hosts discuss various forms of persecution, using examples ranging from "A" for Antifa to "H" for Hosanna.
- I say a little Prayer for You!
In this episode, The Two EXES focus on prayer, hoping the content will be spiritually nourishing and strengthening for listeners.
- This is Us!
In this episode of The Two EXES Podcast, the hosts answer viewer questions about their relationship. This is their longest episode to date.
- Citrusy Libation
The Two EXES discuss alcohol in this episode. They invite listeners to have a drink with them.
- Thank you for your (postal) Service!
In this episode of The Two EXES Podcast, the hosts address questions submitted by a listener, covering topics such as family, faith, and followings.
- I Can’t Go Out cough cough I’m Sick
The hosts of The Two EXES Podcast are home sick and discuss past instances where they were too ill to attend church.
- Where Do My Hands Go, When I'm Going Down?
This episode of The Two EXES Podcast covers the topic of Baptism. The hosts provide details about the subject, promising an insightful and fun discussion.
- Let’s Go Steady
In this episode, the hosts of The Two EXES Podcast revisit their experiences with religious dating, focusing on Mormon and Witness dating customs and the rules they found themselves breaking.
- Good Heavens
This episode of The Two EXES Podcast, titled "Good Heavens," delves into fundamental existential questions about origins, purpose, and the future.
- What Would Jesus Do If He Heard This?
In this Superstar episode of The Two EXES Podcast, hosts discuss different viewpoints on Jesus Christ, questioning his reality, race, and righteousness.
- Woah, Take it Easy!
In this episode of The Two EXES Podcast, the hosts discuss the concept of coasting and how to find a more relaxed approach to being a Witness. They invite listeners to take a break and join them for a cocktail.
- F#%*ing Long Islands
In this episode of The Two EXES Podcast, the hosts discuss their thoughts on and use of profanity, acknowledging that they swear frequently.
- Is He... You Know?
The Two EXES Podcast covers the topic of coming out gay, addressing societal and familial stigma and reactions. The hosts share personal journeys and emotional experiences related to coming out.
- Sit Down and Pay Attention
In this episode of The Two EXES Podcast, titled 'Sit Down and Pay Attention,' the hosts discuss and compare convention culture, specifically looking at Mormon Conferences and Witness Assemblies.
- Mommy Issues
The Two EXES Podcast episode 'Mommy Issues' features the hosts discussing the women in their lives, with a generally positive tone and a focus on 'girl power'.
- The Holy Word(s)
In their final study, The Two EXES Podcast discusses the scriptures they grew up with, including The Bible and The Book of Mormon, and explores their meanings.
- Snap out of it!
The Two EXES Podcast discusses movies, music, and media, specifically focusing on pop culture that influenced their experiences coming out and growing up religious.
- We’re going to need therapy after this one!
In this episode of The Two EXES Podcast, the hosts delve into the topics of wellness and mental health within their former religious cultures. They compare Mormon and Witness takes on personal wellbeing, touching on medication and suicide.
- Shame on who?
This episode of The Two EXES Podcast discusses the heavy topics of guilt and shame within former religious experiences, specifically comparing the doctrines of Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses regarding unworthiness.
- We've got mail!
The Two EXES Podcast's third episode, "We've Got Mail!," features a listener's questions prompting a discussion on evolving religious beliefs and identifying uninteresting aspects of former faiths.
- Can you say...Gaylord?
In this episode, "Can you say...Gaylord?", The Two EXES Podcast explores the concepts of the Gay Voice, Gay Crushes, and Gay Bashing. The hosts share personal and often emotional stories from their lives, including past crushes and experie…
- Where do we begin?
In the first episode, 'Where do we begin?', the hosts discuss their personal journeys growing up as a Jehovah's Witness and a Mormon. They explore the impact of being gay within these religious communities and delve into the concept of