The Talk Show With John Gruber

422: ‘A Monkey on a Rock’, With Stephen Hackett

Stephen Hackett, proprietor of 512 Pixels and co-founder of Relay (purveyor of many fine podcasts), joins the show. Topics include: IO (or if you will, io), the new joint venture of OpenAI and Jony Ive’s LoveFrom; the sheer fantasy of “Made in America” iPhones; and Fortnite’s return to the US App Store. Sponsored by: WorkOS : The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. BetterHelp : Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp and get on your way to being your best self. Squarespace : Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow . Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good . Links: Apple in China , Patrick’s spectacular new book. Patrick on The Daily Show With Jon Stewart . Excerpt from the book in the Sunday Times of London . Millions, Billions, Zillions , Brian Kernighan’s fun little book on practical day-to-day math. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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