Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness

Comedy

About

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness is an evolution of The Holderness Family Podcast, which began in 2018. Laugh Lines is all about aging better together and being able to laugh about getting older. The show features prominent experts, listener call-ins, and hilarious segments including “Are We Too Old For…” and “Gen Z Slang of the Week.” Kim and Penn Holderness are award-winning online content creators known for their original music, song parodies, comedy sketches, and weekly podcasts. Their videos have resulted in over two billion views and over nine million followers since 2013. Penn and Kim are also authors of the New York T...

Episodes

  • Kicking Alzheimer's Butt & Your Questions with Dr. Richard Isaacson

    Kim and Penn Holderness speak with Dr. Richard Isaacson about Alzheimer's prevention, genetic predispositions, and current research. They address listener questions regarding testing, prevention strategies, and the emotional impact of the…

  • Being A Good Human & Birth Vibes with Jen Hamilton

    Kim and Penn Holderness interview Jen Hamilton about her book, "Birth Vibes," and navigating the delivery room. They also discuss being a good human and the importance of kindness and community. The episode includes segments like "Did Jen…

  • We Sang What?! 90s Music, ADHD Identity, & Space Cadet

    This episode of Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness covers 90s music nostalgia, Kim's ADHD diagnosis, and a segment on the Artemis mission and the humanity of astronauts. The hosts reflect on understanding past songs, brain function, an…

  • Life On The Spectrum with Tanner Smith

    In this episode, Tanner Smith from Love on the Spectrum shares his experiences living with autism, discussing routines, passions, and the importance of patience. His sister, Midge Smith, also talks about the Wable app, which helps the neur…

  • ADHD, Alzheimer’s & Life Lately

    Kim Holderness talks about her recent ADHD diagnosis at age 50 and what it means for her life. Penn Holderness provides an update on his efforts to protect his brain health due to his genetic risk for Alzheimer's disease.

  • Finding Joy Anyway with Kate Bowler

    Kate Bowler joins Kim and Penn Holderness to discuss her book "Joyful Anyway," exploring the distinction between happiness and joy. She shares how her stage IV cancer diagnosis influenced her perspective on finding joy in life's challenges.

  • Is This 50? (Happy Birthday, Kim!)

    In this episode, Kim Holderness celebrates her 50th birthday. She reflects on her expectations for turning 50 compared to the reality, and shares messages from others who have already reached their 50s. The episode also covers the finale o…

  • Make Sleep Suck Less with Dr. Chris Allen

    Kim and Penn Holderness interview Dr. Chris Allen to discuss sleep difficulties, including age-related changes, the impact of ADHD, and sleep apnea. They also touch on popular sleep hacks.

  • The Emotional Side of ADHD with Dr. Tamara Rosier (Part 2)

    Kim and Penn Holderness delve into the emotional aspects of ADHD with Dr. Tamara Rosier, focusing on why individuals with ADHD experience intense emotions, shame, perfectionism, and rejection sensitivity. They also discuss ADHD in families…

  • Surprise... Kim Has ADHD (Part 1)

    In this episode, Kim Holderness reveals her recent ADHD diagnosis at almost 50 years old. She shares her personal journey, the signs she overlooked, and her initial hesitation to disclose her diagnosis. Penn Holderness helps reframe her fe…

  • Bridging the Political Divide with Roy Cooper

    On this episode of Laugh Lines, Kim and Penn Holderness speak with former North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper. They discuss bridging political divides, working across party lines, and the influence of faith in public service. The conversati…

  • When You Speak Different Love Languages with Dr. Gary Chapman

    Dr. Gary Chapman, author of The Five Love Languages, is a guest on Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness. They discuss the concept of love languages, what occurs when partners have different love languages, and the five apology languages.

  • Creating Friendships That Matter with Jennifer Wallace

    This episode of Laugh Lines features Jennifer Wallace, New York Times bestselling author, who discusses friendship, purpose, and mattering in midlife with Kim and Penn Holderness. They explore why feeling seen, needed, and valued is essent…

  • This Is Who We Are

    Kim and Penn Holderness discuss the challenges of balancing comedy with difficult current events after a post about hope became a political statement. They reflect on staying authentic, compassionate, and human while continuing to provide…

  • If You Need A Laugh Right Now

    Kim and Penn Holderness share how they find laughter in daily situations like snow day chaos and buying dessert. They emphasize laughter as a survival skill in tough times, encouraging listeners to find moments of relief.

  • Debunking Health Trends with Dr. Eric Topol

    Dr. Eric Topol joins Kim and Penn Holderness to debunk popular health trends found on social media. They discuss topics including brain health, Alzheimer's prevention, and common supplement claims while answering listener questions.

  • New Year, Slightly Improved Me

    Kim and Penn Holderness return for 2026 to discuss their goals for the new year, the experiences of having their college student home, and various updates from their lives. They also reflect on the history of the podcast since its inceptio…

  • Best of Laugh Lines 2025

    Kim and Penn Holderness revisit highlights from the past year, featuring favorite callers, discussions on ADHD, Gen Z slang, and soda preferences. This episode serves as a year-end wrap-up thanking their listener community before their ret…

  • College Breaks & Changing Relationships with Dr. Lisa Damour

    Kim and Penn Holderness are joined by parenting expert Dr. Lisa Damour to discuss the dynamics of navigating changing relationships with college-aged children when they return home for breaks. They cover setting expectations, managing new…

  • Holiday Bare Minimum

    Kim and Penn Holderness discuss the concept of doing less during the holiday season to avoid burnout. They share personal approaches to setting expectations, childhood holiday traditions, and listener stories regarding gift-giving and phys…

  • Men for Menopause with Jesse Robertson

    Kim and Penn Holderness interview Jesse Robertson, creator of Husbands for Menopause, about his efforts to educate men on supporting their spouses through menopause. The episode covers communication, empathy, and personal experiences with…

  • Stuffing Is Wet Bread & Other Hot Takes

    Kim and Penn Holderness discuss Thanksgiving topics, including holiday food, seasonal music, and perimenopause. They also share a story about a postal worker, discuss peanut brittle, and provide conversation starters for Thanksgiving gathe…

  • Aging Is Actually Awesome

    In this episode of Laugh Lines, Kim and Penn Holderness discuss the positive aspects of aging, reflecting on why they wouldn't want to return to their twenties. They also share listener comments about various life experiences and introduce…

  • The Truth About Longevity with Dr. Eric Topol

    Hosts Kim and Penn Holderness interview cardiologist and scientist Dr. Eric Topol about longevity, examining common wellness myths, new medical advancements like GLP-1 drugs, and potential future screenings for Alzheimer's and cancer.

  • Making Friends, Marriage, & Maybe Aliens

    Kim and Penn Holderness discuss making friends in their 40s, maintaining a marriage during busy times, and various wellness trends. The episode also features pop culture commentary and a look at science topics.

  • Advice for Gen Z From Your "Golden Girls"

    Kim and Penn Holderness share advice for Gen Z based on lessons from their own lives in their teens, 20s, and 30s. The episode includes a discussion on their recent book tour, a de-influencing segment, and listener voicemails.

  • Living Parallel Lives with Dustin & Melissa Nickerson

    Comedian Dustin Nickerson and his wife Melissa join hosts Kim and Penn Holderness to discuss their parallel life experiences. Topics include ADHD in marriage, youth sports, sending children to college, and a game of "Bring It Back or Pass."

  • All You Can Be with ADHD (For Kids!)

    Kim and Penn Holderness celebrate the release of their children's book, All You Can Be with ADHD, in an episode designed for families. They read excerpts, share messages from children, and discuss navigating the strengths and challenges of…

  • Parents Weekend & Getting Bursitis

    In this episode of Laugh Lines, Kim and Penn Holderness discuss a recent bursitis diagnosis, their experience at a college Parents Weekend, and various lifestyle topics including perimenopause and fitness updates.

  • Hamilton, Hearing Loss, & Sing-Alongs with Alex Lacamoire

    Musical orchestrator and arranger Alex Lacamoire discusses his career, his experience with hearing loss, and his synesthesia on this episode of Laugh Lines. Hosts Kim and Penn Holderness also engage in sing-alongs and explore his journey f…

  • Motivating ADHD Kids & Your Questions with Dr. Emily King

    Child psychologist Dr. Emily King joins Kim and Penn Holderness to discuss strategies for parenting and educating children with ADHD. The episode covers supporting executive functioning, balancing correction with confidence, and motivating…

  • Open Door, Not Empty Nest with Gretchen Rubin

    Kim and Penn Holderness discuss navigating the emotional transition of college drop-off with author Gretchen Rubin. They explore themes of reframing the empty nest, creating new family rituals, and coping with the silence after children le…

  • How To Fix Youth Sports with Greg Olsen

    Kim and Penn Holderness interview former NFL player Greg Olsen about the challenges and pressures of modern youth sports. They discuss the goals of Olsen's platform, Youth Inc., and explore strategies for parents to keep the experience hea…

  • College Drop Off Reflections & Distractions

    Kim and Penn Holderness reflect on the emotional experience of dropping their daughter off at college, covering their preparation, the initial adjustment period, and how they are coping with this life transition.

  • Unhinged ADHD Tips & Differences In Women with Dr. Amelia Kelley

    Kim and Penn Holderness discuss ADHD hacks and share experiences with Dr. Amelia Kelley, author of Powered by ADHD. The conversation focuses on how ADHD presents in women, the role of masking, and the connection between ADHD symptoms and a…

  • Wearing What You Want with Stacy London

    Kim and Penn Holderness interview Stacy London about her approach to fashion, focusing on breaking style rules and embracing midlife. The discussion also covers identifying a personal style, listeners' names, and features an original song.

  • Weighted Vests & So Much Protein with Dr. Mary Claire Haver

    Dr. Mary Claire Haver joins Kim and Penn Holderness to discuss menopause nutrition, bone density, and protein intake. They also cover the benefits of weighted vests, sleep tips, and personal anecdotes.

  • Your Calls, Getting Canceled, And Weird Al

    Kim and Penn Holderness respond to listener voicemails, discuss their experiences with comedy, and share stories ranging from meeting Weird Al Yankovic to humorous cultural misunderstandings. They also seek input on a name for their commun…

  • Mental Breakdowns & Moonshot Goals with Mike Massimino

    Kim and Penn Holderness discuss coping with their daughter going to college and talk with former astronaut Mike Massimino about his journey to NASA and the importance of setting ambitious goals. The episode also features a listener contrib…

  • Ask A Gen Zer (with PC Holderness!)

    Kim and Penn Holderness are joined by their 15-year-old son, PC, to discuss the differences between Gen X and Gen Z. They also address listener questions and explore current trends and slang.

  • Before You Get Botox with Dr. Sue Ellen Cox

    Kim and Penn Holderness interview dermatologist Dr. Sue Ellen Cox about cosmetic procedures, including Botox, fillers, and lasers. The discussion covers the reality of aging, "pre-juvenation," and how to approach these procedures safely.

  • Fart Walks, Birds, & Squirrels

    Hosts Kim and Penn Holderness discuss various humorous topics, including fart walks, birdwatching, and squirrels. They interview guest Mairlyn Smith about the benefits of fart walks and bird expert Dr. Lauryn Benedict about birding and squ…

  • Is It ADHD or Perimenopause?

    In this episode of Laugh Lines, Kim and Penn Holderness discuss the challenges of combining ADHD and perimenopause, featuring a game show segment with producer Sam Allen. They also touch upon their experience on an Oprah podcast, listener…

  • Real College Advice with Dr. Lisa Damour

    Kim and Penn Holderness are joined by Dr. Lisa Damour to discuss preparing children for life after high school. They cover essential life skills, how parents can transition to a supportive role, and share listener advice for college studen…

  • The Hill I'll Die On

    Kim and Penn Holderness discuss their passionately held, minor opinions known as "the hills they'll die on." They also share listener submissions on topics ranging from the Oxford comma to pineapple on pizza and rank Penn's top five opinio…

  • Lifesaving Work No One’s Talking About with Dr. David Fajgenbaum

    Dr. David Fajgenbaum of the nonprofit Every Cure joins the show to discuss his mission of repurposing approved drugs to treat other diseases. The hosts also discuss topics including their views on movie theaters and personal life advice.

  • Graduation & Fun Distractions

    Kim and Penn Holderness discuss the emotional experience of parenting a child graduating high school and heading to college. They share their different coping mechanisms, personal anecdotes, and hear from other parents navigating this life…

  • How Did We Survive the 90s?

    Kim and Penn Holderness revisit the 1990s and discuss the experiences of Gen X. They read listener stories about childhood memories and reflect on Gen X parenting and independence compared to today.

  • How To Talk Back To Anxiety with Ethan Kross

    Kim and Penn Holderness interview psychologist and neuroscientist Ethan Kross to discuss strategies for managing anxiety and self-talk. The episode also covers emotional flooding related to ADHD and includes a listener Q&A segment.

  • Working Our Pelvic Floor with Dr. Danielle Owens

    Kim and Penn Holderness discuss the benefits of pelvic floor therapy with Dr. Danielle Owens, a certified physical therapist. They explore why this therapy is important for both men and women, while also covering topics like day trips and…