Invisible Machines podcast by UX Magazine
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"The enemy of nonsense in AI" | The #1 podcast about agentic AIJoin great conversations with experts about the intersections between AI, product design, technology and business.The bestselling authors of Age Of Invisible Machines are joined by other luminaries to continue the conversations that began in their book—the first bestseller about agentic AI. With a newly revised and updated Second Edition that hit the shelves in spring of 2025, Robb Wilson (CEO and Co-Founder of OneReach.ai) and Josh Tyson expand their explorations of disruptive technology with fellow AI insiders, experts, and luminaries working in adjacent realms.
Episodes
- No Strategy Without Vision ft Brian Evergreen | Invisible Machines
Brian Evergreen argues that AI strategies often fail because they are just buying plans. He suggests focusing on defining a clear vision first, then working backward to determine what needs to be true to achieve it, rather than focusing so…
- The Confabulation Machine ft. Evan Ratliff of Shell Game | Invisible Machines Podcast
Evan Ratliff shares insights from his Shell Game experiment involving AI agents with names and personalities, examining their impact on organizations and the implications of generative hallucination.
- Crisis Is Your Opening | Marina Nitze | Invisible Machines
Marina Nitze, former CTO of the VA, explores how crisis can enable transformational change, a concept she terms "crisis engineering." The discussion covers identifying useful crises, distinguishing them from chronic problems, and practical…
- Inside The Infinity Machine ft Sebastian Mallaby
Sebastian Mallaby, author of "The Infinity Machine," joins Invisible Machines to discuss Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the pursuit of superintelligence. The conversation delves into the early days of AI, DeepMind's unique foundation, and t…
- Friction Is the Feature with Jennifer Pahlka | Invisible Machines S7E5
Jennifer Pahlka joins Invisible Machines to discuss "folk law" in American government, where outdated interpretations of rules create rigidity. She explains how government is structurally designed for process over outcomes, leading to "rat…
- AI Brings Cheap Prediction & Expensive Change ft Avi Goldfarb | Invisible Machines Podcast
Avi Goldfarb explains that AI’s primary value is as cheap prediction, similar to how the internet made search and copying inexpensive. He argues that the main obstacle to realizing AI’s full potential through system solutions is not techno…
- What AI as Cheap Prediction Means for Enterprise ft Joshua Gans | Invisible Machines Podcast
Joshua Gans reframes enterprise AI adoption by focusing on its role as a computational statistic advancement that lowers prediction costs and decision-making friction. He argues this leads to organizational restructuring and flattening hie…
- Why Canonical Knowledge Is the Foundation for Enterprise AI ft Joe DosSantos, VP at Workday
Joe DosSantos, VP at Workday, explains that enterprises require a single source of truth, or canonical knowledge, to deploy functional AI agents, unlike B2C applications where multiple interpretations are acceptable. The episode outlines a…
- Ben Goertzel on the Decentralization of AI | Invisible Machines S7E1
Ben Goertzel joins Invisible Machines to discuss the decentralization of AI, who controls AI infrastructure, and his work on Hyperon and the ASI Chain. He also touches on accelerated AI development cycles.
- Why AI Scaffolding Matters More than Use Cases ft Erika Flowers | Invisible Machines S6E12
Erika Flowers joins Invisible Machines to discuss enterprise AI adoption. The conversation focuses on the importance of AI scaffolding and runtime environments over chasing specific use cases, exploring why many AI projects fail and what t…
- 5 Predictions for Agentic AI in 2026 | Invisible Machines Podcast S6E11
The Invisible Machines podcast episode discusses predictions for agentic AI in 2026, focusing on outbound AI and agent runtime environments. Hosts Robb and Josh explore potential seismic shifts for businesses and investors, previewing disc…
- Marc Hijink, author of Focus: The ASML Way | Invisible Machines Podcast
Marc Hijink, author of "Focus: The ASML Way," joins Invisible Machines Podcast to discuss ASML, a Dutch company central to AI development through its advanced chip-producing lithography machines. The conversation covers the precision of EU…
- Siloed Security? Forget AI Adoption
Omar Santos, Distinguished Engineer at Cisco, joins Invisible Machines to discuss AI security in the agentic era. He explains how security must be an integrated layer as AI agents generate software, requiring human oversight and risk simul…
- Confronting Complexity with GraphQL ft Matt DeBergalis CEO/Co-founder, Apollo GraphQL | S6E8
Matt DeBergalis, CEO and Co-founder of Apollo GraphQL, joins Invisible Machines to discuss how GraphQL helps organizations manage complexity and build reliable systems for AI. The conversation covers GraphQL
- Controlling AI Chaos with Agent Runtimes
This episode of Invisible Machines podcast features Josh and Robb discussing agent runtime environments. They explain how these environments are crucial for AI projects to reach production, enabling AI agents to collaborate on business obj…
- AI Adoption is an Act of Self-Disruption ft Brian Solis, Head of Global Innovation at ServiceNow
Brian Solis, futurist at ServiceNow, joins Invisible Machines to discuss how AI adoption requires self-disruption. The episode covers mind shifts, lessons from companies like IKEA and Airbnb, and differentiates between "aha" and "uh-oh" mo…
- How Google & PayPal Could Rewrite Agentic Commerce | Invisible Machines S6E5
Prakhar Mehrotra from PayPal explores the influence of agentic AI on commerce, especially concerning the PayPal-Google partnership. The discussion covers future marketplaces where AI agents will handle bidding and pricing, and how AI is tr…
- You Can’t Fake “AI-First"
Cassie Kozyrkov returns to Invisible Machines to discuss the decision science behind an AI-first approach to technology. She explains AI as a memory prosthesis and advises organizations to target complex automation rather than simple proce…
- Why Success Feels Like Failure at NVIDIA
Bryan Catanzaro played a key role in NVIDIA
- Why is OpenAI So Obsessed with AGI? Karen Hao (NYT bestselling author of "Empire of AI")
Journalist Karen Hao joins Invisible Machines podcast hosts Robb and Josh to discuss her book "Empire of AI," exploring OpenAI's trajectory, the concept of AGI, and issues like AI colonialism and biased systems. They also touch on the valu…
- NVIDIA: What's next for the $4T AI powerhouse?
Journalist Stephen Witt discusses his book on Jensen Huang and Nvidia, exploring the link between GPUs and AI, the company's innovation, and the future implications of the Omniverse and simulation for businesses.
- What the #%!@ is Vibe Coding?
Tim Wood joins Invisible Machines to discuss experience design and AI, including the term "vibe coding." He shares insights on AI-first design from his roles at Meta and AWS, and explores topics like automated mainframe migration and "plac…
- Ask Us Anything: Can UX Keep Up with AI?
On the Invisible Machines podcast, Robb and Josh address listener Dr. Irina Wagner's question about AI's impact on UX. The discussion links AI's rise to the importance of storytelling in design, suggesting AI may highlight good design by d…
- The 50/50 Rule with ex NASA Chief, Dan Goldin
Former NASA Chief Administrator Dan Goldin joins Robb and Josh to discuss his innovative "faster, better, cheaper" approach and the 50/50 rule for selecting team members. The conversation touches on his time leading NASA, including project…
- Copyrightability and Generative AI - Ed Klaris, Round 2
Ed Klaris rejoins Invisible Machines to discuss the US Copyright Office
- What Is Life? Round 2 with Blaise Agüera y Arcas
Blaise Agüera y Arcas returns to Invisible Machines to discuss his book "What is Life?", which examines parallels between deep-sea hydrothermal vents and the work of Turing and von Neumann, exploring how life is inherently computational an…
- Radically Honest AI with Dr. Anna Lembke
Dr. Anna Lembke joins Invisible Machines to discuss AI's potential and risks, focusing on behavioral addiction and technology's effect on brain dopamine systems. The conversation explores the concept of radical honesty in addiction recover…
- S4E16 How do human brains inform “thinking” machines, with Dr. Thomas Parr
Dr. Thomas Parr joins Invisible Machines podcast to explain active inference, a framework in theoretical neuroscience based on minimizing free energy to understand behavior and the brain. The discussion references Parr's book, "Active Infe…
- S4E15 Computer Vision In Action
On this episode of Invisible Machines, Dr. Jason Corso, Professor of Robotics at the University of Michigan and Co-Founder of Voxel51, discusses computer vision with hosts Robb and Josh. They explore the significance of computer vision wit…
- S4E14 AI Agent Building in Action
Daniel Lametti, an Associate Professor of Psycholinguistics, returns to Invisible Machines to demonstrate the process of building an AI agent for crafting emails. The episode explores how coding languages are becoming less prominent as mac…
- S4E13 Are generative AI tools unlawful to use?
This episode features Ed Klaris discussing the legality and copyright implications of generative AI tools. The conversation covers concerns about training data and the potential impact of IP law on AI models.
- S4E12 Designing a Future for AI Natives
Jieun Kiaer, Professor of Korean Linguistics at Oxford, joins the Invisible Machines podcast to discuss her book 'The Future of Syntax: Asian Perspectives in an AI Age.' The conversation delves into the complexities of Asian languages, Mar…
- S4E11 Digital Natives Are Now AI Immigrants
In this episode of Invisible Machines, Marc Prensky discusses the limitations of the current education system and the potential for AI to foster "AI natives." He and Josh also explore the challenges and benefits of conversational AI for so…
- S4E10 Is AI the End of Companies?
Consumer AI adoption is accelerating, posing a potential threat to companies. Harsha Gowda and Nitin Bhudia discuss the risks of delaying AI adoption and how organizations can leverage AI agents to transform operations.
- S4E9 Digital Twins in an Agentic World
Dr. Michael Grieves discusses the origins and architecture of digital twins, concepts he developed while at NASA. The conversation on the Invisible Machines podcast covers how digital twins provide context for AI agents and how organizatio…
- S4E8 Will We Ever Love Using Software?
Journalist Matt Alston joins Invisible Machines to discuss his article on Workday, highlighting general user dissatisfaction with software. The episode examines how software interaction shapes thought and considers the implications of conv…
- S4E7 Are AI Agents the End of SaaS?
The Invisible Machines podcast episode S4E7 explores the future of SaaS companies in the age of AI agents. Guests discuss the challenges SaaS companies face in 2024, the multi-agent approach to automation, and the advantages for startups i…
- S4E6 How Human Should AI Agents Really Be?
Sophie Bushwick joins the Invisible Machines podcast to discuss the extent to which AI agents should be human-like. The conversation covers anthropomorphism in AI, drawing parallels with early tech like Tamagotchi, and examines the ethical…
- S4E5 Agentic Micro UIs IN ACTION
Cole Gentile of OneReach.ai joins the show to discuss and demonstrate micro UIs, which provide graphical, interactive elements for conversational AI agents. The episode explores how these interfaces function as a component of AI-driven aut…
- S4E4 The Intelligence All Around Us
This episode of Invisible Machines features James Bridle, author of Ways of Being, exploring perspectives on technology and artificial intelligence. The discussion delves into the interplay between organisms and machines in the search for…
- S4E3 The AGI in Organizational Agility | McKinsey & Co.'s Aaron De Smet
Aaron De Smet of McKinsey & Company joins Invisible Machines to discuss organizational agility and its relationship with AI. The conversation explores how outdated industrial revolution-era strategies hinder companies and how reshaping the…
- S4E2 Ephemeral Applications and AGI
Ben Goertzel discusses the upcoming era of ephemeral applications, where software is created dynamically for individual needs, and its potential impact on artificial general intelligence. He highlights AI's ability to write code as crucial…
- S4E1 Organizational AGI
This episode discusses how AI agents can enhance business longevity and establish organizational AGI. Robb Wilson, CEO of OneReach.ai, who coined the term OAGI, joins Josh Tyson and Elias Parker to explore this concept.
- BONUS EPISODE: Building an Autonomous Company with AI Agents
This bonus episode features a conversation from the Innovation & Leadership podcast where Robb Wilson discusses AI agents and an agentic approach to workflow automation. He shares lessons on AI adoption, fostering innovation, and scaling s…
- S3E22 AI is a UX Term with Tanmay Bakshi, AI & Application Architect at IBM
Tanmay Bakshi, an AI and application architect at IBM, discusses user experience and conversational AI with hosts Robb and Josh. Bakshi began coding at age four and released his first iOS app at nine.
- S3E21 Forging Humanistic AI with Tom Gruber, Co-Founder of Siri
Tom Gruber, co-founder of Siri, joins Robb and Josh to discuss humanistic AI, which focuses on augmenting human capabilities. They explore how federated machine learning and privacy-preserving techniques are used to create safer, personali…
- S3E20 AI Agents at Work with Greg Vert, Deloitte
Greg Vert from Deloitte discusses the impact of AI agents on enterprise HR, including the concept of AI as the UI and the importance of empathy in automated systems.
- S3E19 Behind the Curtain with Kara Swisher
Kara Swisher, a tech journalist, joins Robb and Josh to discuss the early days of Silicon Valley, her experiences covering tech giants, and insights from her memoir 'Burn Book'. The conversation also touches on the anticipated impact of AI…
- S3E18 AI Agents in Action
In Invisible Machines S3E18, Annie Harshberger demonstrates AI agents working together to automate complex scheduling. She shares insights into designing these conversational experiences, focusing on their coordinated efforts to scale acro…
- Exploring AI Agents S3E17
In this episode of Invisible Machines, Robb Wilson and Josh Tyson delve into the complexities of AI agents, drawing parallels to Intelligent Digital Workers. They discuss the necessary technological ecosystems and strategies for organizati…