Health Hats, the Podcast

Communication Ninjas: Practice, Trust, Evidence

Aaron Carroll, CEO of Academy Health, discusses his journey to improve health systems & decision making through community engagement & repetitive communication. Summary Aaron Carroll, CEO of Academy Health, shares his journey, from his frustrations with the healthcare system as a pediatrician, and the role of mentorship and science communication in his career. He delves into his efforts to make complex health issues understandable to diverse audiences through various media, his role in improving health care decision making and systems, involving communities in research, and building trust through consistent and repetitive science communication. Dr. Carroll also touches on the importance of implementation science and the challenges of making research findings effective in real-world settings. Click here to view the printable newsletter with images. More readable than a transcript, which can also be found below. Contents Please comment and ask questions: at the comment section at the bottom of the show notes on LinkedIn via email YouTube channel DM on Instagram , Twitter , TikTok to @healthhats Production Team Kayla Nelson: Web and Social Media Coach, Dissemination, Help Desk Leon van Leeuwen: article-grade transcript editing Oscar van Leeuwen: video editing Julia Higgins: Digital marketing therapy Steve Heatherington: Help Desk and podcast production counseling Joey van Leeuwen , Drummer, Composer, and Arranger, provided the music for the intro, outro, proem, and reflection, including Moe’s Blues for Proem and Reflection and Bill Evan’s Time Remembered for on-mic clips. Podcast episodes on YouTube from Podcast. Inspired by and Grateful to Seth Godin , Nakela Cook , Ann Boland, Ellen Schultz , Steve Heatherington Links and references Aaron Carrol: The Incidental Economist, Healthcare Triage, Robert Wood Johnson Clinical Scholar, New York Times, Indiana University’s COVID response . Academy Health: Academyhealth.org/Datapalooza , Communicating for Impact, community-led research grants, Health Data Leadership Institute , Dissemination Implementation Science Conference patient-included criteria implementation science Episode Proem Danny and Ann, July 3, 2024 Together for more than fifty years, my wife and I still practice communication – practice as in repetition, experimentation, and humility with two steps forward and one step back (or one forward and two back). No wonder anyone participating in healthcare continually struggles with the puzzle of communication. Just today, I texted a pharmacy about access to a critical medication with an expired prescription, tried to explain my newly diagnosed diabetes and diet choices on FaceTime with a friend, and drafted a letter about lessons learned about measurement for team members to share with our leaders. I know some master communicators: Seth Godin , Nakela Cook , my wife, Ellen Schultz , Steve Heatherington , and my guest today, Dr. Aaron Carroll , President and CEO of Academy Health. They each excel in different ways under different circumstances. I must take care to keep listening to their content and not float above and marvel at their artistry and skill. DALL·E 2024-07-24 09.19.39 – A scene depicting various master communicators, each in their element. One is a charismatic speaker on a stage, engaging an audience I’m delighted to have the opportunity to spend some time with Aaron Carroll and tap into the communication challenges he faces as a communicator and leader. I’ve followed him for years on his blog, The Incidental Economist, and YouTube channel, Healthcare Triage . Dr. Carroll can, has, and will impact your health. Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I’m Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life’s realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let’s make some sense of all of this. Introducing

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