Exvangelical
Religion & Spirituality
About
Exploring the world inside and outside the evangelical subculture, one conversation at a time. "Exvangelical" is a shared starting point with many destinations; it acknowledges the impact (predominantly white/white-led) evangelicalism has had on our lives, but does not dictate our current or future beliefs & practices. On this podcast, you'll hear stories of people who've left evangelicalism for other branches of Christianity, for other spiritual traditions, and for none at all. All paths are valid. Wholeness > Holiness. Exvangelical is a production of The Post-Evangelical Post, LLC. Support the show at just $5/month or $50/year at postevangelicalpost.com . 25% of net proceeds are donated to the Religious Exemption Accountability Project and White Homework . Find show notes and archives at exvangelicalpodcast.com Support our show b
Episodes
- Becoming Neighbors with Amar D. Peterman
In this episode, I speak with Amar D. Peterman, author of the new book Becoming Neighbors: The Common Good Made Local. Follow Amar online: https://amardpeterman.substack.com/ https://www.tiktok.com/@amarpeterman https://www.instagram.com/a…
- The Good Books: BK O'Connor, author of Eve: A Novel
This week I'm talking to B.K. O'Connor, author of Eve: A Novel. Buy Eve: A Novel on bookshop.org to support the show: https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781592116690 Follow BK O'Connor on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bkivoconnor/ She an…
- Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg Returns
I’ve got a wide-ranging interview with Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg to share with you today. It’s been a few years since I spoke with her, and the geopolitical landscape has changed considerably in that time. In the first half of the conversatio…
- What's Still Happening in Minneapolis-St. Paul Right Now with Jenny Booth Potter
Today I'm chatting with Jenny Booth Potter, a return guest and resident of the Minneapolis-St. Paul area.Jenny had a video go viral back on 2/9/26, and I wanted to hear from her about how things are still going. That video is here: https:/…
- Money, Lies, and God with Katherine Stewart
This week I'm joined by Katherine Stewart, journalist and author of Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy. Her book was published in February 2025 and offers incredible insights into the various networks o…
- On Fire for God with Josiah Hesse
This week I'm happy to share my interview with Josiah Hesse, author of the new book On Fire for God: Fear, Shame, Poverty, and the Making of the Christian Right . Josiah was a guest on Exvangelical back in 2018 , and we met up in Chicago l…
- Podcast Spotlight: Reign of Error with Sarah Posner
This week I’m happy to share with you the pilot episode of the new show, Reign of Error with Sarah Posner ( Apple Podcasts link), produced by our friends over at Axis Mundi Media . Longtime listeners will know Sara Posner from her 2020 app…
- Podcast Spotlight: Reign of Error with Sarah Posner
This week I’m happy to share with you the pilot episode of the new show, Reign of Error with Sarah Posner ( Apple Podcasts link), produced by our friends over at Axis Mundi Media . Longtime listeners will know Sara Posner from her 2020 app…
- The Good Books: After Purity with Sara Moslener
In the first interview of 2026, I talk to Sara Moslener about her latest book, After Purity: Race, Sex, and Religion in White Christian America. (Buy the book from bookshop.org here & support the show) Learn more about Sara's work at https…
- Author Interview: Disciples of White Jesus with Angela Denker
This episode was originally released on The Good Books . In this episode, I chat with author Angela Denker about her latest book, Disciples of White Jesus . Subscribe to Angela's newsletter . Support the show via my newsletter: post…
- The Good Books: Shame-Sex Attraction with Lucas FW Wilson
In this latest interview, I speak with Lucas FW Wilson about the anthology Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors' Stories of Conversion Therapy . The interview starts about 5:00 minutes in after a long intro/update. This episode was originally r…
- Minisode: Standing Against Something, Standing for Something
Originally published on YouTube on 3/7/2025. I'm between author interviews, and March is traditionally a difficult month for me. Here is a brief minisode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by b…
- The Good Books: The NAR & Trump's Return to Power with Dr. Matthew Taylor
In this episode of The Good Books, I spoke with Dr. Matthew D. Taylor, author of The Violent Take It By Force: The Christian Movement That Is Threatening Our Democracy . We talk about the growth of independent charismatic Christianity, the…
- Inauguration Minisode: Where will counterpublics thrive now?
In this minisode recorded on MLK Day/Inauguration Day 2025, I consider where counterpublics might be able to thrive in today's media landscape. I've written about counterpublics before in my book , and in my newsletter . Programming Note:…
- Post-Election Thoughts
In this episode I talk about what's next for this show and for, well, all of us. Some of my comments are from my latest newsletter missives: Well, here we are - Post Ev Post Coming Soon: (More of) The Good Books - Post Ev Post Exvangelical…
- On the 2024 Election
In this quick episode, I talk about the 2024 US Election. Show notes: My latest entry at The Post-Evangelical Post Emily Joy Allison addressing white exvangelicals on Instagram. Kristin Du Mez: Preparing for Tuesday Robert P. Jones: The Su…
- From the Archive: Reza Aslan
Today I'm publishing an archival episode with Reza Aslan, who called my book Exvangelical & Beyond " [a]n insightful exploration of faith, identity, and activism in a nation at the crossroads of religious fervor and social change…At once a…
- Exvangelical & Beyond is out TODAY.
My book, Exvangelical & Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radical and the Movement That's Fighting Back , is out TODAY, wherever books are sold. Buy here or at your local bookstore. In this short episode, I express my gratitude for th…
- Thoughts on the PRRI 2023 Census of American Religion
In this minisode, I talk about the 2023 Census of American Religion published by PRRI. This is an adaptation & expansion of my latest post at The Post-Evangelical Post . Exvangelical & Beyond comes out in under a month! Pre-order now ! Lea…
- The Good Books: Tia Levings, author of A Well-Trained Wife
Today's guest is the author Tia Levings, writer of the new book A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy. You may also know her from the Amazon docuseries Shiny Happy People and her newsletter The Anti-Fundamentalist . Her…
- Join the Exvangelical & Beyond Launch Team!
My book, Exvangelical & Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radical and the Movement That's Fighting Back, will be coming out in just under a couple of months on 9/24/24. The publisher, Tarcher Perigee, has opened up applications to joi…
- Tyler Huckabee Talks X-Men
In this episode, I talk to Tyler Huckabee from Clusterhuck. We go deep into the X-Men comics, especially the Krakoan Era (the most recent status quo in the X-Men line that ran from 2019-2024. Start with the House of X / Powers of X collect…
- The Good Books: TImothy Morton, author of Hell: In Search of A Christian Ecology
In this episode, I got to speak to Timothy Morton. They are the author of over 20 books, including their most recent, Hell: In Search of A Christian Ecology . Timothy is a recent convert to Christianity after decades exploring Buddhism and…
- The Good Books: Cait West, author of Rift
Today I'm sharing my recent conversation with Cait West, author of Rift: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy. This is a great debut memoir from West and a wonderful addition to this growing genre of books. I was very gratef…
- The Good Books (Re-Release): Asian American Apostate, Scott Okamoto
May has been busy! Today I'm highlighting a conversation I had last year with Scott Okamoto, author of Asian American Apostate . In an extended intro, I also share the news about the cover reveal of my forthcoming book, Exvangelical & Beyo…
- The Good Books: Hell Is a World Without You by Jason Kirk
In today's episode I talk to Jason Kirk, author of the novel Hell Is a World Without You. If you ever wanted to know what it was like to be a hormonal evangelical teenage boy in the late-90s/early oughts (or want to revisit your mindset if…
- The Good Books (Re-Release): Becca Andrews, Author of NO CHOICE
This is a re-release of my October 2022 interview with author Becca Andrews about her book No Choice: The Destruction of Roe v. Wade and the Fight to Protect a Fundamental American Right . I was reminded of the importance of this book and…
- Sarah McCammon, Author of The Exvangelicals
Today I'm talking to Sarah McCammon, NPR political correspondent and author of The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church . We talk about her personal experiences within white evangelicalism as well as how…
- Matthew Sheffield on Mormonism & Evangelicalism, RW Media, and the 2024 Election
This week I'm joined by Matthew Sheffield from Flux. We discuss Mormonism & evangelicalism, his experiences in right-wing media, and the 2024 election. It's a broad-reaching conversation that I hope you enjoy. Follow Matthew's work at Flux…
- The Good Books (Re-Release): The Making of Biblical Womanhood with Beth Allison Barr
This week I'm re-releasing my conversation with Beth Allison Barr, author of the book The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth . I'm joined by two guest co-hosts, Emily Autenrieth and Laura Agase.…
- The Good Books: Psalms of My People with Lenny Duncan
Today's guest is Lenny Duncan, author of the new book Psalms of My People: A Story of Black Liberation as Told through Hip-Hop . This is a wide-ranging conversation, and I can't wait for you to listen. This conversation is another entry in…
- The Good Books: What Makes You Bloom with Kevin Garcia
Hello, 2024! Today I'm overjoyed to share my conversation with Kevin Garcia about their new book, What Makes You Bloom: Cultivating a Practice for Connecting with Your Divine Self. This book is all about establishing new spiritual practice…
- Laura Anderson, author of When Religion Hurts You
This week's guest is is Dr. Laura Anderson, author of the book When Religion Hurts You: Healing from Religious Trauma and the Impact of High-Control Religion . We talk about the definitions of trauma and abuse, what drew her to this work,…
- Holy Runaways, with author Matthias Roberts
It's been a minute--well, more than a minute. Almost 4 months. Glad to be back to share this interview with Matthias Roberts, author of the new book Holy Runaways: Rediscovering Faith After Being Burned by Religion . We talk about Matthias…
- Re-Release: The Religious Exemption Accountability Project
Happy Pride, everyone! I'm re-releasing this 2021 interview with Erin Green and Paul Southwick of The Religious Exemption Accountability Project . CW: this conversation includes discussion of sexual and gender discrimination and other form…
- R. Scott Okamoto, Asian American Apostate
This week I welcome R. Scott Okamato back to the show to discuss his book Asian American Apostate: Losing Religion and Finding Myself at an Evangelical University . We talk about his life as a professor at an evangelical college, the class…
- Minisode: What I'm Reading in May 2023
In this short episode, I talk about some of the books I'm reading right now. I wrote about them earlier this week for Post-Ev Post . The books discussed: Asian American Apostate by R. Scott Okamoto. Bookshop | Amazon The Flowering Wand by…
- Holly Laurent from the MEGA podcast returns
In this episode, I catch up with Holly Laurent from MEGA, the satirical improv show about a fictional megachurch. We last spoke in 2019, and a lot has changed since then. We talk about improv, comedy & satire, and the upcoming MEGA spinoff…
- On Public & Private Griefs
New interviews are recorded and being planned, but not ready to be published. Various other commitments in life have taken precedent. In lieu of an interview, I'm publishing an audio version of an essay I wrote called " On Public & Private…
- Gloria Beth Amodeo: God's Ex-Girlfriend
In this episode, I interview Gloria Beth Amodeo, author of the memoir God's Ex-Girlfriend: A Memoir about Loving and Leaving the Evangelical Jesus . We talk about her college-age conversion to evangelicalism through Cru, how purity culture…
- Lenny Duncan Is Preparing for a World Beyond the Church
This week’s guest is Lenny Duncan, author of the new book Dear Revolutionaries: A Field Guide for A World Beyond the Church . In this brief talk, Lenny and I discuss church, the thought leader industrial complex, and more. A couple notes:…
- 200 Episodes of Exvangelical
In this short episode, I talk about producing 200 episodes of this show: how it started, where it's been, what might be next. A new interview episode will be posted this week. Exvangelical is a production of The Post-Evangelical Post, LLC.…
- From the Archive: Talking Burnout with Anne Helen Petersen
In this episode from 2020, I chat with Anne Helen Petersen about her book Can't Even: How Millennials Became the Burnout Generation ( Amazon , Bookshop ). We discuss her spiritual & religious background, her viral essay on BuzzFeed that le…
- Potential Futures for Spirituality with Kevin Garcia
IN this chill conversation with return guest Kevin Garcia, I talk to them about what we should expect from community, how online communities don't reflect the ones we might have left, and how this balances out with our desire for personal…
- From the Archive: God, Human, Animal, Machine with author Meghan O'Gieblyn
Listeners, come see me w/ Brad Onishi of Straight White American Jesus & Tim Whitaker of The New Evangelicals in Philly on 2/11/23! Get tickets here and use code 50 at checkout to get 50% off! It's an archival episode! In September 2021, I…
- Teddy Wilson on nationalist movements, the J6 & J8 insurrections, and more
In this episode, I speak with Teddy Wilson from Radical Reports about his experience covering the radical right. We talk about how important language is when identifying and discussing various groups, the transnational nature of nationalis…
- The Comfort of Fictional Religions
Over at The Post-Evangelical Post , I've been writing about fictional religions for subscribers. As I wrote on 1/3/23 : "When your faith of origin is also the origin of a grievous wound, there’s an odd solace to be found in knowingly made…
- Preparing for War - the extremist history of White Christian Nationalism with Bradley Onishi
Happy new year, everyone - the first guest of 2023 is a return guest, Bradley Onishi. Brad is co-host of the Straight White American Jesus podcast and author of the new book: Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nati…
- Shaped By Tools: The Vibe Shift That Was Foretold Came, & Twitter Did Not Survive It
This is an audio version of my latest essay published at The Post-Evangelical Post: The Vibe Shift That Was Foretold Came, & Twitter Did Not Survive It . Back in February, a time that feels much farther away than a mere 10 months ago, The…
- Doing Nothing Is No Longer An Option, with Jenny Booth Potter
This week's guest is Jenny Booth Potter, author of the book Doing Nothing Is No Longer An Option: One Woman's Journey Into Everyday Antiracism . Jenny is also the co-host of the web series The Next Question with Austin Channing Brown and C…