And That's What You REALLY Missed

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You joined us as we relived the magic of McKinley High by watching all six seasons of Glee… and now we’re keeping the music going. This time, we’re stepping outside the choir room and diving into some of the most iconic musicals ever. Think: Rocky Horror Picture Show. Grease. Hairspray. West Side Story. Moulin Rouge. Wicked. And of course, High School Musical. But we’re not stopping there - we’ll also celebrate unforgettable musical TV projects like Smash, Nashville, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend… plus those surprise musical episodes of shows you already love, like Grey’s Anatomy, Riverdale, and The Flash. We...

Episodes

  • Life Lately

    In this episode, Jenna and Kevin share their recent experiences and upcoming summer plans. They talk about extending 'Spelling Bee,' Jenna's New York trip, stage shows, their interest in Formula 1 on Netflix, and a preview of guests for Je…

  • Fan Edition: Songs Glee Would Cover Today

    In this fan edition episode, Gleeks suggest songs they wish Glee would cover today, featuring country artists and discussions about Mariah Carey and Haim. Jenna and Kevin also discuss a young artist who resembles Naya Rivera.

  • Project Broadway

    Jenna and Kevin discuss Broadway news, including Matthew Morrison and Lea Michele, as well as Heather Morris's Off-Broadway debut. Kevin shares his reviews of 'The Wild Party' and the 'Project Hail Mary' premiere.

  • Tartie Takes: Traveling

    Jenna and Kevin share stories about traveling during their Glee years, discussing their experiences, flight must-haves, and the differences between traveling then and now. They also touch on the challenging aspects of their trips and Jenna…

  • Tartie Takes: Songs Glee Would Cover Today

    Jenna and Kevin ponder which songs Glee would cover if it were still on air, suggesting a Taylor Swift Eras episode, Hamilton, K-Pop, Billie Eilish, and Sabrina Carpenter. They also discuss dream casting and potential guest stars.

  • Dear Tartie

    Jenna and Kevin introduce 'Dear Tartie', a new segment where they provide advice on various topics including acting, new beginnings, and relationships. Kevin also shares an update about the Spelling Bee, featuring Jesse Tyler Ferguson.

  • Golden Night

    Jenna and Kevin discuss the 98th Academy Awards, highlighting KPop Demon Hunters winning and Michael B. Jordan taking his Oscar to In-N-Out.

  • Favorite Musicals of All Time

    Jenna and Kevin discuss their favorite stage musicals of all time. They explore what makes certain shows impactful, debate the merits of an entire show versus its music, and share their dream roles.

  • Finally Golden (KPop Demon Hunters)

    Jenna and Kevin review the film KPop Demon Hunters, discussing its global popularity, animation, and music. Jenna also shares her personal feelings about K-pop and Korean culture becoming mainstream and includes a voice note from her niece…

  • Bootlegs & The Bee

    Jenna and Kevin discuss Broadway bootlegs and games actors play on stage. Kevin also talks about having Ken Jennings and Amber Riley as guest spellers in Spelling Bee.

  • Tartie Takes: All About the Money

    Jenna and Kevin discuss how actors are paid, covering series regulars vs. guest stars, union dues, and net earnings. They also share financial advice from the adult cast of Glee.

  • Tartie Takes: Auditions

    Jenna and Kevin talk about the audition process, including self-taping, callbacks, and producer sessions. They also share personal experiences of roles they nearly secured.

  • FaceTime with Jenna & Kevin

    Jenna and Kevin catch up about Kevin's recent experience during a New York blizzard. They also talk about Dianna Agron, Matthew Morrison, and Kevin's Broadway show. They also discuss current Glee clips and recent binge-watching.

  • King of New York with David Moscow

    David Moscow joins Jenna and Kevin to discuss his time on the set of "Newsies," including initial misconceptions about the film being a musical and lessons learned from Robert Duvall. He also talks about Season 6 of his show "From Scratch"…

  • Seize the Day (Newsies)

    Jenna and Kevin revisit the Disney musical "Newsies." They discuss its history as a financial flop and its later reception as a cult classic. The hosts also share their favorite scenes and thoughts on Christian Bale and Kenny Ortega.

  • Tartie Takes: Awards Season

    Jenna and Kevin share their experiences attending Hollywood's awards season. They discuss what happens during commercial breaks, the impact of getting a nomination, and what it's like being on the campaign trail, including their favorite a…

  • Tartie Takes: Life Before Glee

    Jenna and Kevin share their experiences as child actors before Glee, detailing auditions, pilot season, and their early jobs. They also discuss dealing with stage parents, Jenna's commercial work, and Kevin's time in a boy band.

  • Sugary Sweet Q&A with Vanessa Lengies

    Vanessa Lengies participates in a fan Q&A session. She shares favorite moments from the set of Glee, discusses her role in the film "Stick It", and talks about being a mom. Topics also include what she thinks her character Sugar Motta is d…

  • American Dreams with Vanessa Lengies

    Vanessa Lengies joins the podcast to talk about her time on the NBC show 'American Dreams,' sharing stories from her audition, her relationship with co-star Brittany Snow, and interactions with celebrity teens. She also discusses memorable…

  • Tartie Takes: Comfort Shows

    Jenna and Kevin from "And That's What You REALLY Missed" talk about comfort shows. They discuss why familiarity is appealing and how comfort viewing changes throughout different phases of life, even if the choices are not typically "cozy."…

  • Tartie Takes: Parasocial Relationships

    Jenna and Kevin explore parasocial relationships and the evolution of fandom, drawing parallels from their Glee experiences to current pop culture phenomena like Taylor Swift and Bridgerton. They discuss the joy, connection, and complexity…

  • I Quit with Johnathon Schaech

    Johnathon Schaech joins Jenna and Kevin to discuss his experiences playing Jimmy in the movie That Thing You Do! He talks about the audition process, working with Tom Hanks and Liv Tyler, and the film's lasting impact, including its inspir…

  • That Thing You Do!

    Jenna and Kevin revisit the movie That Thing You Do!, discussing their experiences meeting Tom Hanks, the film's cast, music, and Liv Tyler's performance. They also debate why the film has not been adapted into a stage musical.

  • Glee Reunions, New York State of Mind, and What Really Goes on Backstage

    Kevin discusses encountering Jonathan Groff and Matthew Morrison, along with sharing backstage chaos. He and Jenna also debate which Glee cast members to sit with or avoid on a flight.

  • The World Turned Upside Down (Hamilton)

    Jenna and Kevin review the musical Hamilton, sharing their experiences watching it live and its streaming debut. They discuss their favorite songs, performance MVP, and whether Hamilton makes for a good first date.

  • Pitch Perfect Chat with Deke Sharon

    Deke Sharon, the vocal arranger and music director for 'Pitch Perfect,' shares behind-the-scenes stories from the movie's production. He also discusses Glee and the world of a cappella, offering his help to aspiring singing groups.

  • A Golden Night

    Kevin and Jenna review the Golden Globes, covering the new carpet layout, Nikki Glaser as a host, show highlights, and what felt hokey and gross. They also share their own experiences attending the Globes for Glee, including commercial bre…

  • Aca-awesome (Pitch Perfect)

    Kevin and Jenna revisit the musical comedy Pitch Perfect. They discuss their favorite performances, casting choices, jokes that did not age well, and similarities to Glee.

  • New Year Catch Up

    Kevin and Jenna discuss their holidays, Kevin's recent stage performances, a prevalent bug, and Kevin's review of Darren Criss in Maybe Happy Ending.

  • Let Me Be Your Star (Smash)

    Jenna and Kevin discuss the pilot episode of the TV musical series "Smash." They compare their initial impressions to their rewatch, analyze original songs versus covers, and share what they liked and disliked about the show.

  • Hello 2026

    Jenna and Kevin reflect on the past year, sharing what they are grateful for and their favorite TV shows and book recommendations. They also discuss musicals they are excited to explore for the podcast and their New Year's resolutions, wit…

  • Merry Gleemas!!

    Jenna and Kevin share their holiday plans, with Jenna focusing on festive activities for her children and Kevin experiencing his first Christmas in New York. They also play a game of This or That.

  • Glee Christmas Fantasy Draft

    Jenna and Kevin hold a Glee Christmas Fantasy Draft, selecting their favorite Glee Christmas covers and discussing other holiday songs. They also share their quintessential favorite Christmas songs.

  • Bonus Q&A Time!

    Jenna and Kevin answer fan questions, including who would be the killer if Glee were a horror film and which performance they would re-shoot. Kevin reveals an artist he turned down for a collaboration, and Jenna asks a series of rapid-fire…

  • Note-worthy Chat with Alex Patsavas

    Alex Patsavas, Grammy & Emmy-nominated Music Supervisor, joins Jenna and Kevin to discuss her journey from the mailroom to music supervision for popular shows and soundtracks. She shares insights into how music is chosen for television pro…

  • Come What May (Moulin Rouge)

    Jenna and Kevin review Baz Luhrmann's "Moulin Rouge," covering its visual and auditory elements, as well as the casting. Kevin shares his experience being in a music video he thought was a movie.

  • Wicked Fun with Jon M. Chu

    Jon M. Chu joins Jenna and Kevin to discuss behind-the-scenes aspects of the film "Wicked: For Good," including choices made during production and advertising challenges. He also shares memories from "Glee" and provides an update on the "C…

  • Bloody Good Time (Sweeney Todd)

    Kevin and Jenna review "Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street," discussing performances, Johnny Depp's casting, gory scenes, and the transition of stage magic to the big screen. They also share their favorite song and discuss voca…

  • Bonus Q&A Time

    Jenna and Kevin answer questions about Glee and Smash, including cast rumors, potential tribute episodes, and Kevin's favorite cast member. They also share how to meet Kevin in NYC.

  • Glee Trivia: Round 2

    This episode of "And That's What You REALLY Missed" features a Glee trivia competition. Glee actors Jenna and Kevin compete against podcast hosts Andrew McGuire and Ian Alred. The episode includes multiple trivia rounds and games.

  • Tangoing with Tracie Thoms

    Actress Tracie Thoms joins Jenna to discuss her career, from Broadway to her roles in 'Rent,' 'The Devil Wears Prada,' 'Cold Case,' and '9-1-1.' She shares experiences from filming and her acting journey.

  • Dancing Through Life with Christopher Scott

    Jenna and Kevin interview choreographer Christopher Scott. They discuss his experiences working on "Glee," "So You Think You Can Dance," and the "Wicked" movies, including his creative process and behind-the-scenes details from the films.

  • Happy Thanksgiving!

    Kevin and Jenna share their Thanksgiving holiday plans and favorite foods. They also reminisce about the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade and play a game of 'would you rather.'

  • No Good Deed (Wicked: For Good)

    Kevin and Jenna discuss the movie "Wicked: For Good," including their reviews, the performances of Cynthia, Ariana, and Jonathan Bailey, new songs, stage-to-screen changes, and the ending. They share what worked and what didn't in the film.

  • Wickedly Good with Marissa Bode

    Marissa Bode, who plays Nessarose in the "Wicked" movie musical, joins Jenna to discuss her experiences on set. She talks about changes to Nessarose's character, authentic disabled casting, and relationships formed during production.

  • Defying Gravity (Wicked)

    Jenna and Kevin discuss the movie version of "Wicked," highlighting its "secret sauce" and connections to "Glee." They also share their experiences with the stage production and its life-changing impact.

  • Beauty School Dropout with Didi Conn

    Didi Conn, known for her role as Frenchy in Grease, discusses her experiences during the filming of Grease. She also provides details about the film's upcoming 50th-anniversary celebration.

  • Let’s Go to the Movies (Annie)

    Jenna and Kevin discuss the 1982 movie musical "Annie," examining its significance, performances, and how it has aged. They also share personal connections, including a Glee link and Jenna's past audition for a Broadway production of "Anni…

  • Another Day with Adam Pascal

    Adam Pascal, known for his role as Roger Davis in "Rent," joins the podcast to discuss his experiences with the musical, including the audition process and behind-the-scenes stories from both the Broadway production and the film adaptation…

  • Seasons of Love (Rent)

    Jenna and Kevin recap the movie musical "Rent," a groundbreaking rock opera. They discuss the differences between the stage and screen versions, including the cast, blocking, and tone. Jenna also shares her experience auditioning for "Rent…