A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast
Health, Fitness & Longevity
About
We created A Tale of Two Hygienists in 2015 because we are passionate about helping our fellow clinicians be the best version of themselves, both professionally and personally. We Interview experts in their fields to provide better care for our patients while promoting the joys of being a dental hygienist.
Episodes
- 541 Implant Instrumentation: Preserving the Implant While Treating the Patient — From Single Implants to Full-Arch Fixed Prostheses
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with implant maintenance expert Alison Stahl to unpack the hidden risks surrounding dental implants — and why successful implant therapy requires far more than simply p…
- 540 More Than a Credential: The Responsibility, Trust, and Purpose Behind Licensure
About This Episode: What does it really mean to hold a dental hygiene license? In this episode, Dave and Jessica sit down with Amanda Hill — speaker, consultant, award-winning author,to unpack what licensure truly represents for dental hyg…
- 539 You're Not a Student Anymore — Advocating for Yourself as a Professional
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Billie Lunt, RDH, BA, MSDH, to explore the pivotal transition from student to practicing professional—and what it really means to advocat…
- Not All Nano-Hydroxyapatite Toothpaste Is Created Equal
In this episode of Fast Facts Ask the Expert, Dr. Jen discusses the science behind nano-hydroxyapatite toothpaste and why not all fluoride-free formulations are created equal. Learn why concentration, crystal quality, and science-backed fo…
- 538 Clinic Isn't the Real World — But It Wasn't Useless Either
In this episode, David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Kevin Lopez to unpack the gap between clinical education and real-world dental hygiene practice. Kevin shares honest insights from his experience, highlighting what truly mat…
- 537 What We're Actually Worried About: Graduating Hygienists Speak
In this episode, David Torres and Jessica Atkinson dive into the real concerns and experiences of graduating dental hygienists as they transition from school into the professional world. This candid conversation highlights the emotional an…
- 536 Caring for the Cancer Patient
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Melia Lewis, MEd, to discuss the critical role dental hygienists play in supporting patients undergoing cancer treatment. Drawing from he…
- 535 What Do You Say? Oral Cancer Screening Verbiage That Builds Trust
In this episode, Alyssa Aberle shares her powerful personal journey through a patient diagnosis, surgery, and tongue reconstruction, offering a perspective that deeply resonates with dental professionals. The conversation emphasizes the cr…
- 534 Oral Cancer Screening: Stepping Fully Into Your Role
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson welcome renowned speaker and dental educator Jo-Anne Jones for an impactful conversation titled "Oral Cancer Screening: Stepping Fully Into Your Role."…
- Solventum Podcast Chat -Focus on the fluoride facts: Talking with patients about Clinpro™ Clear
Fluoride conversations don't have to feel uncomfortable. In this Bonus episode, we're joined by Jen Post, RDH, MDH, FADHA, to discuss practical strategies for improving patient communication and increasing fluoride acceptance. Jen shares h…
- 533 When the Provider Becomes the Patient: An RDH's Early Detection of Thyroid Cancer
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and David sit down with dental hygienist Angeli Walton to share her powerful story of recognizing early signs of a thyroid condition—within herself. What began as clinical awareness quic…
- Dry Mouth Relief That Actually Lasts
Dry mouth isn't just uncomfortable—it can impact sleep, swallowing, oral health, and overall quality of life. In this TIPisode, we learn about Moisyn, a unique solution designed to provide lasting moisture and relief for patients dealing w…
- 532 What We're Missing: An Oral Pathologist on Red Flags, Referrals, and Reality
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with oral pathologist Dr. Bryan Trump to discuss the important role dental professionals play in identifying abnormalities and knowing when to…
- 531 When Advocacy Doesn't Win: How to Respond When Legislation Goes the Other Way
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Joffree Bunleang to unpack one of the most challenging realities in professional advocacy—what happens when legislation doesn't go the wa…
- 530 Legislation 101 for Hygienists: What Actually Moves the Needle
Legislation impacts your daily practice more than most clinicians realize. In this episode, we sit down with Derik J. Sven to break down what truly drives change in dental hygiene policy — and what doesn't. Derik shares insight into the re…
- Comfort, Confidence & Stronger Smiles
Tooth sensitivity can make everyday things—like drinking cold water or even getting a routine cleaning—uncomfortable for patients. In this TIPisode, Dr. Marc Geissberger shares his experience beta testing ReminGel, a professional-strength…
- 529 Advocating for Yourself Without Burning Out
Advocacy can feel exhausting — especially in a profession that already demands so much emotionally and physically. In this powerful episode, we sit down with Bethany Montoya, MBA, BAS, RDH to talk about how to stand up for yourself, your p…
- 528 From Complaining to Constructive: Turning Frustration Into Advocacy
In this episode, we sit down with Danyelle Evans to explore her path from an invested clinician to becoming a state and national advocate for oral health and access to prevention. Danyelle shares the moment that shifted her perspective fro…
- 527 Practicing With Purpose: Lessons From the Wind River Reservation
Dr. Johnson returns to the podcast to share a powerful and often-overlooked perspective on tribal dentistry, career fulfillment, and why passion truly matters in dentistry. This conversation goes beyond clinical techniques and dives into p…
- 526 Pediatric Medical Emergencies & Anesthesia: Prepared, Not Panicked
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, hosts Jessica Atkinson and David Torres sit down with Brittnee Thibault and Lindsay Richmond—two hygienists who graduated with no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school and went on to bec…
- 525 Choosing Pediatrics: Training, Practice, and the Art of Caring for Kids
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Johnson, a dedicated pediatric dentist (pedodontist), to explore what makes pediatric dentistry truly unique—and why it's about so much more than just teeth. From mastering parent communication to hand…
- 524 Why Sharpening Matters: Instrument Care with Christine Jeffs
In this episode, we sit down with Christine Jeffs, co-founder of Acuti Sharpening, to talk about why sharpening isn't optional—it's essential. Christine shares how she got started in the sharpening business and how Acuti Sharpening came to…
- 523 From Dental Hygiene to Glam: The Story Behind Glam Studio
In this episode, we introduce The Pros at Glam Studio and the passion behind their work. As licensed dental hygienists with decades of experience, they share how they combine dental hygiene and aesthetics to help clients achieve healthy, b…
- 522 The Co-Host Compatibility Test
In this episode, we welcome our new co-host, Jessica and David with a fun, question-based game to get to know each other on (and off) the mic. Instead of a formal intro, we dive into stories, laughs, and a few unexpected answers. We talk a…
- 521 From Dental Chair to Design Dreams: Ashley Kear on Building an Etsy Shop
In this episode, we chat with Ashley Kear about starting her Etsy shop and what happens when you stop trying to niche yourself into a box—and instead combine everything you love . Ashley shares how her journey began not just with creativit…
- 520 More Than a Side Gig, Evolving Your Career with Shelley Brown!
In this episode, we sit down with Shelley Brown to talk about what happens when creativity, clinical care, and advocacy collide. Shelley shares the story behind her "side gig," Homebound Smiles, and how a simple idea grew into meaningful w…
- 519 And The New Co-Hosts Are...
The end of an era as Andrew hangs up the mic as host of A Tale of Two Hygienists after more than 10 years. But this isn't a sad day, it's a day to celebrate as we welcome in the two new co-hosts for 2026.. but you have to listen to find ou…
- Spice/K2: A Pharmacists Perspective with Tom Viola
Spice/K2 is incredibly problematic. Not only is it unhealthy, it's also inconsistent and regularly laced with unknown additives and other drugs. Listen to Tom Viola as he explains the main concerns with this recreational drug! Resources: B…
- 518 Being Thin Does NOT Equal Health with Machell Hoover, RDH
We go through different phases of our life and sometimes we are very healthy and sometimes we aren't. Unfortunately, we humans judge books by covers - we think thin is health and heavy is not. In this episode with Machell Hoover she remind…
- What Should Hygienists Know About Treating Pregnant Patients? Ask The Expert with Katrina Sanders!
What to see an alarming stat? 77% of OBGYNs report that their pregnant patients are declined routine dental care. There is plenty of stigma and misunderstanding swirling about in the dental community regarding pregnant patients, so give th…
- 517 Let's Close Down 2025 Already!
Have you ever been in that weird in-between spot where you are in holiday mode but still have work but want the year to be over for a reset but still need to process the happenings of the previous 12 months? Of course you have, and many of…
- 518 Burned Out On Burn Out with Andrew Johnston, RDH
In this episode, we dive into the concept of burnout. Burnout has turned into a massive industry buzzword and quite frankly, its mostly misused. Additionally, the solutions that have been given to beat burnout are often addressing somethin…
- How Do I Know When a Patient Truly Needs Scaling and Root Planing? Ask The Expert with Katrina Sanders!
Listen in to this week's episode with Katrina Sanders as she explains when a patient TRULY needs scaling and root planing! Resources: More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/ Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.ka…
- 515 The Current Model of Prevention is Broken with Tim Ives!
Episode Overview In this thought-provoking episode, Tim Ives joins the show for an in-depth conversation on the evolving role of dental hygienists, the ongoing challenges in oral health, and the importance of behavior change and communicat…
- Inflammation Drivers and Disease Solutions with Tanya Dunlap! **Bonus**
Episode Overview This episode is a recording of a CE-Caliber presentation led by Tanya Dunlap, Vice President of Clinical and Business Development, and research liaison for Perio Protect. Key Topics Covered Chronic Oral Infections & System…
- 514 Has Endurance Disappeared in Dentistry? With Dr. Alan Mead
Welcome back to another insightful episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists! This week, Andrew Johnston is joined by none other than Dr. Alan Mead—podcaster, dentist, mentor, and community builder. Dr. Mead shares how the dental podcasting land…
- How A Periodontist Saves Teeth At A Multi-Location Practice!
Episode Summary: This tipisode from "A Tale of Two Hygienists" features Dr. Sadie, a periodontist from Maryland, sharing insights on the implementation of Perio Protect in her multi-specialty practice. Hosted by Tanya Dunlap, the conversat…
- 513 Do You Still Love Taking Perio-Focused CEs? with Sarah Thiel
Episode Summary In this episode, Andrew Johnston welcomes long-time friend and hygiene industry leader Sarah Thiel back to the show. As one of Andrew's final episodes, the two reflect on their years of friendship, the evolution of dental i…
- Toothpaste: The Most Power Prescription We Don't Have To Write with Melissa Calhoun! **Bonus**
Episode Summary: In this special bonus episode brought to you in partnership with TheraBreath, Andrew Johnston sits down with Melissa Calhoun for an in-depth discussion about all things toothpaste—why it's more than just a routine product,…
- 512 Is Temping Making a Comeback?
Episode Summary: In this engaging throwback episode, Andrew and guest co-host Brittany catch up with Dr. James Younger to talk all things temping in the dentistry. As temping continues to grow in popularity, especially following shifts dur…
- 511 Is Clinical Excellence in Dentistry Transferable? with Dr. Chris Salierno!
Episode Highlights: Networking & Power Networking: Dr. Chris Salierno returns for an in-depth conversation on building meaningful professional relationships in dentistry. He offers his insights into "power networking," stressing the import…
- 510 Hygienists (and Teeth!) On The Move with Tom Viola, Misty Mattingly, and Renata Nehme!
Episode Overview In this special, nostalgia-fueled episode, Andrew takes a look back at meaningful conversations from prior episodes, bringing in crucial advice for dental professionals and hygienists that's just as relevant today as when…
- Bath Salts: A Pharmacists Perspective with Tom Viola
Tom Viola is BACK and he is talking about bath salts... and we are not talking about Dr Teal's epsom salts. Tom shares a little bit of the background of what they are, where they originated, and the difficulties of testing for them. Don't…
- 509 Are Hygienists Optimistic? A Peek Into The State of Work with Thalia Diedrick!
Are we on the brink of a mass retirement of dental hygienists? Are hygienists really all that unhappy and what are the drivers that factor into job satisfaction? Rather than guessing, we have Thalia Diedrick on the show who comes with the…
- What Happens To The Gingiva When We Incorporate Dietary Counseling? Ask The Expert with Katrina Sanders!
We always talk to our patients about how to remove plaque, apply medicaments, and review systemic factors. What if its easier than all of that? What happens when we simply change our diet instead? Katrina Sanders explains how we can get he…
- 508 RED FLAGS!!!! Why Offices Fail with Dr. Pam Maragliano and Dr. David Rice Pt2
Leadership is about failure and experience. In this part 2, we pick up where we left off with Dr. Pam Maragliano and Dr. David Rice as they give expert advice to those looking to succeed in this dental world in which we live. This episode…
- 507 RED FLAGS!!!! Why Offices Fail with Dr. Pam Maragliano and Dr. David Rice Pt1
Drs Pam Maragliano and David Rice bring the heat in this crossover episode with the Dentistry Unmasked Podcast. Both of these doctors, having experienced low employee turnover and highly successful practices, have found the secret sauce. A…
- 506 Are AI Tools Really Necessary or The Flavor of The Week? with Teresa Duncan!
What are the non-clinical AI tools that are out there and are they here to stay? Many practices are scared of change, many simply just do not want to change.... but will the practices of insurance companies force the issue? Are we overreac…
- 505 Heading Back To The Op! with Brooke Crouch
It's scary when life events mandate that you completely change your life and lifestyle. In this episode we hear from Brooke Crouch who spent time in the corporate world for several years, only to find herself headed back to the operatory..…
- Inhalants - glue, paint thinners etc: A Pharmacists Perspective with Tom Viola
Do our patients huff glue? If so, what should we expect? Let's find out on this short episode from Tom Viola! Resources: Be sure to reach out to him if you have any questions by emailing TomViola@tomviola.com , visit his website TomViola.c…